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Word, Brian. 

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The big box stores like Costco and Walmart will probably try to sell you 20 year old conventional progressive model, like those mentioned by the OP.  They do this because lens companies sell these really cheap to them and they move high volumes of them.  Try to find an independent optical that carries lenses from Shamir, Essilor, or perhaps Hoya or Zeiss.  It is important to note that digitally surfaced lenses are available to both single vision wearers and even lined bifocal/trifocal wearers.  I wear digital single visions and love them.  

 

As the OP, I just want to add, that I was dissuaded from buying the cheaper "20-year-old" digital lenze at Cosco, in favour of the latest, greatest in technology lenzes which were being touted by "Sir Hakim".  I remain unconvinced that I got what I paid for.   It seems to me all the flaws they were advertising the older lenzes had showed up in my "latest and greatest technology lenses".   Since I'm no optician, I had no way of telling that they didn't just shove in a $10, made in China, "digital" (curvature controlled by digital computer -SET TO GIVE A STANDARD progressive CURVE) lenze, and then reground it to single vision when I told them I didn't like the tunnel vision and aberrations (without refunding me any money). 

 

On the bright side, I got a good deal on the frames.

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As the OP, I just want to add, that I was dissuaded from buying the cheaper "20-year-old" digital lenze at Cosco, in favour of the latest, greatest in technology lenzes which were being touted by "Sir Hakim".  I remain unconvinced that I got what I paid for.   It seems to me all the flaws they were advertising the older lenzes had showed up in my "latest and greatest technology lenses".   Since I'm no optician, I had no way of telling that they didn't just shove in a $10, made in China, "digital" (curvature controlled by digital computer -SET TO GIVE A STANDARD progressive CURVE) lenze, and then reground it to single vision when I told them I didn't like the tunnel vision and aberrations (without refunding me any money). 

 

On the bright side, I got a good deal on the frames.


There are about a million and one things that can potentially go wrong from the time a doctor starts flipping through lenses asking "One...or two..." and when your final glasses are made and sitting on the end of your nose.  When you get into sport optics, and ski optics in particular - the chances for error to enter the system go up even higher.  With that said, ANY qualified optician who knows what they're doing should easily be able to troubleshoot your concerns and work through to a valid solution. 

 

Ghost, were you looking for optics you can specifically use for skiing as well as everyday wear?  Or sport specific only?

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As the OP, I just want to add, that I was dissuaded from buying the cheaper "20-year-old" digital lenze at Cosco, in favour of the latest, greatest in technology lenzes which were being touted by "Sir Hakim".  I remain unconvinced that I got what I paid for.   It seems to me all the flaws they were advertising the older lenzes had showed up in my "latest and greatest technology lenses".   Since I'm no optician, I had no way of telling that they didn't just shove in a $10, made in China, "digital" (curvature controlled by digital computer -SET TO GIVE A STANDARD progressive CURVE) lenze, and then reground it to single vision when I told them I didn't like the tunnel vision and aberrations (without refunding me any money). 

 

On the bright side, I got a good deal on the frames.


There are about a million and one things that can potentially go wrong from the time a doctor starts flipping through lenses asking "One...or two..." and when your final glasses are made and sitting on the end of your nose.  When you get into sport optics, and ski optics in particular - the chances for error to enter the system go up even higher.  With that said, ANY qualified optician who knows what they're doing should easily be able to troubleshoot your concerns and work through to a valid solution. 

 

Ghost, were you looking for optics you can specifically use for skiing as well as everyday wear?  Or sport specific only?


These are my every day garden variety  "put them on your face so you can see" glasses.  I only have one pair of glasses, not counting the old pairs that have a different prescription (from when I was less blind).   I wear them skiing, driving, biking, and, well, pretty much almost all the time.

 

My main complaint was that I could not keep looking in my direction of travel while driving and reading street signs.  I like to see where I'm going, and I like to know where I'm at. I'm also of the opinion that a clear view of the deer and moose, that are about to charge you from the shoulders of the road is a good thing, not to mention the small children that might decide to challenge my aging reflexes.  

 

I was also not enamoured with their ability to handle reading.  Sure, I could read a page through the glasses, but only one line at a time and only if I tilted my head to the exact angle required to read that particular line, and lost my place re-tilting/refocusing/moving the book to read the next line.   I could read a page with my old prescription, but barely.   With this one I could not read with the glasses; since I went back to single vision, I take them off to read.  Without them I can't see my computer screen well enough to read normal sized font (unless I put my face close to it).

I figured if since they sucked at why I was getting them anyway (so I didn't have to take them off to read), why bother ruining my distance vision.

post #35 of 38
I have -6.5 with a +2 progressive. I am using a level 4 ultra thin lens. Additionally I was talked out of the high level digital. The reason is simple, light transmission. Depending on the combination of what is done to the lens you have advantages and disadvantages for each option.

I've been with this optician and eye doctor for over 30 years and I do understand the theory behind what is happening in the new optics (very similar to some of the new antenna theory being explored).

So if you've got something that works stick with it.

BTW my wife uses the digital with a lessor prescription and progressive and not as thin of a lens. Works really well for her. So it shows that there is no right answer for what works best, you just need good guidance for the best solution, price, field of view, light transmission, wt and so on.

Ghost, progressives.....I love them and I hate them. Set up correctly they are great except for shaving where I can't get the right angle to see if I've missed anything :-)
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I have -6.5 with a +2 progressive. I am using a level 4 ultra thin lens. Additionally I was talked out of the high level digital. The reason is simple, light transmission. Depending on the combination of what is done to the lens you have advantages and disadvantages for each option.

I've been with this optician and eye doctor for over 30 years and I do understand the theory behind what is happening in the new optics (very similar to some of the new antenna theory being explored).

So if you've got something that works stick with it.

BTW my wife uses the digital with a lessor prescription and progressive and not as thin of a lens. Works really well for her. So it shows that there is no right answer for what works best, you just need good guidance for the best solution, price, field of view, light transmission, wt and so on.

Ghost, progressives.....I love them and I hate them. Set up correctly they are great except for shaving where I can't get the right angle to see if I've missed anything :-)


This doesn't add up...somethings fishy.  I'll PM rather than clog this thread here.  Perhaps I can help.

 

Bri~

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This doesn't add up...somethings fishy.  I'll PM rather than clog this thread here.  Perhaps I can help.

 

Bri~

Nothing fishy,  just stick with works best was the main comment.

 

BTW I replied to your PM and thanks for the offer smile.gif.

post #38 of 38

Hello All,

     I ran across this discussion while researching lenses for my daughter.  (We don't ski, but thought some of you sounded like you might be able to help with this problem)  My daughter is aphakic (she had congenital cataracts that were removed).  She wears +11.00, -1.25 x65  with a +3.00 add for bifocals for her glasses prescription. She has always worn full field lenses.  We've always been able to get glasses that work and are fairly nice in appearance.  They're not the fried egg type but the other.  They used to be able to get them made using a Welsh

4 drop lens (not sure about that), then they had to switch to another material when that became unavailable.  The lenses were still thin enough to have a pleasing appearance.   

     Now, we are having trouble getting glasses that are acceptable.  Her newest pair are thicker and give visual aberrations around the edges. She's 25 years old and not in the least bit happy with them.

     Everyone acts like it's so difficult to get these aphakic glasses made now and the materials are limited.  We're investigating our options.  She can't wear contact lenses because she has glaucoma and has to put several eyedrops in each day.

     Does anyone here know anything about where we might be able to look to get glasses of that power that are thin enough with good visual function?  She has always worn bifocals, but might be able to adjust to progressives.

Any ideas at all would be helpful.  Thanks so much for reading this.

 

Sabra 

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