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2010 Salomon X-Wing Tornado Ti - Impressions?

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Me- 6'5" 200# 52 y.o. looking for a snappy front side ski to use in Wyo and Utah.  I've been buying progressively fatter skis the last 15 years (Olin Sierras 197, then Head Mojo 90 186cm, now on Fischer Watea 94's 186 cm).  After going fatter for so long, I think I'd like to play with something 'carvier' on the no-powder days.

 

I demo'd some Tornados back in 2007, and they felt very snappy but I could bend the 175cm demo's pretty easy. 

 

I'm looking at some 2010 Tornado Ti's in 180 cm.  They seem beefier than the older models, with two layers of titanal.  I want to lay down some trenches in the corduroy and maybe get through the moguls a bit better.  I would hope the shorter length would help in the bumps, but not always true.  Any impressions would be appreciated.  Most of my searches turned up Enduro reviews or the Powerline series.

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I guess I was looking for somebody to talk me out of these.  To no avail - I now own them. 

 

I can always dump them on my kids if I don't like them.  With Salomon Z12 bindings, I can tweak them to their boots right on the hill.

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Well, the kids aren't getting these babies.  I finally got to let these taste snow this weekend.  With the lack of new snow keeping me off the hills, I decided a day at Deer Valley with these front-side carvers should be OK since DV does a superb job grooming what runs they have open.  Impressions:

 

-the grip on ice is excellent.  Of course the edges were brand new, which helps, but I can really feel the metal in the ski vs. the non-Ti version I demo'd a few years back.  I demo'd a 175 cm ski, and these are 180's, so there really isn't that much more edge to work with.

-the feeling of getting edge-to-edge is tremendous, but don't get on the tails with these.  Super stiff tails that don't tolerate back seat driving.  Sometimes on the first few runs I'd get behind the ski and lose my timing. 

-The width underfoot of 84cm isn't that skinny.  I wouldn't expect these to totally flail in crud, but until I get a day in cut-up powder, I can't say how these would do.  Same for moguls, which were almost non-existant except for a few along the edge of a run here and there.

 

Overall I was very pleased with the ski - made a day of cruising quite fun. 

 

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What's your impression in crud after spending some time in these? The 173s I demoed busted through the crud like it was nothing. Felt similar to my XScreams. I loooove these skis.

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I posted my impressions along with your review.  I wouldn't expect them to be punching through the crud like a wider ski with rocker.  I've been able to pull the right ski for the conditions out of my quiver this winter, and the Tornado Ti isn't the one I've grabbed.  I've been able to put them through some reasonable mogul fields and they do not suck in the bumps.  Great skis tho - glad you like them. 

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I posted my impressions along with your review.  I wouldn't expect them to be punching through the crud like a wider ski with rocker.  I've been able to pull the right ski for the conditions out of my quiver this winter, and the Tornado Ti isn't the one I've grabbed.  I've been able to put them through some reasonable mogul fields and they do not suck in the bumps.  Great skis tho - glad you like them. 

I've been toying with the idea of getting a softer (I weigh 150 lbs) ski for moguls, off-piste and deep soft days (which are very rare around these parts).  I really enjoyed the old Salomon Equipe 10 SC's "fly by wire" precise instant turns, but not their instability at higher speeds.  Do you think I would like these?


Wider skis for crudconfused.gif

It's probably the extra mass.

My skinny old Machete g punches through crud, like pushing the "easy" button. 

My skinnier older Kästle SGs punch through everything (except large trees; I avoid running into those).

Just say'n.

 

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Maybe I'm confusing performance in crud vs. spring slush.  I hit Snowbird every year in May, and the locals all seem to be on fatties like Pontoons and the like.  I tend to go wide in the slush too (Watea 94's), but I think the difference between the X-WIngs and those are not too dramatic.

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I can see where it would make a difference in wet slush.  Do those Wateas have the "boat hull"?  biggrin.gif

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No, they are 2009 models with fugly maori graphix.

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