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I am trying to find out if I can use Swixs BP99 for hot scraping my skis/board, or should i use CH10 for hot scrape then bp99 for pase prep then ch6 as my wax of the day choice, I am new to the forum and looked around but couldnt find any info on this, thanks

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I am trying to find out if I can use Swixs BP99 for hot scraping my skis/board,

 

Yes.    The stuff works really well.

 

If you like CH6 as a WoD,  try also Maplus Race Base Medium.    Slightly more expensive, but more durable and a wider temp range.

post #3 of 13

Any soft wax or soft Base Prep wax is fine for hot scraping.

 

post #4 of 13
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Once i have a clean suface after the hot scrape what is the best procedure to have a well protected base. (how many coats of base prep before my next coat of wax, and how many  coats wax should i think about putting on before my new skis hit the slopes?)

 

Also is it a good idea to use base prep on a older set of skis to give them a rejuvenated base ? (before re waxing)

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Once i have a clean suface after the hot scrape what is the best procedure to have a well protected base.

 

 

Brush the hot-scraped surface with your nylon brush then put a new coat of wax on immediately after that.
 

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(how many coats of base prep before my next coat of wax?)

 

Start with 3 then if you really feel like doing more work go to 5 and so on.     You will get more bang per coat buck if you brush with your nylon brush in between Base Prep coats.


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,( and how many  coats wax should i think about putting on before my new skis hit the slopes?)

 

If you did the prep work right,  just one will be fine for most recreational uses.


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Also is it a good idea to use base prep on a older set of skis to give them a rejuvenated base ? (before re waxing)


Sure.   If you have a metal (stiff brass, bronze or steel) brush, you can use that before you do the base prep on the older skis.

 

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Since the OP asked about waxing and the response includes the topic of structure...  The brushing suggestion will refresh the base structure that is important for performance.  Info on base structure can be found here:

http://www.racewax.com/category/tuning-tips.ski-base-structure/

 

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Sure.   If you have a metal (stiff brass, bronze or steel) brush, you can use that before you do the base prep on the older skis.

 



 

post #7 of 13

 I first brush with a stiff steel. Not too hard. Then one or 2 hot scrapes (sometimes 3 in the spring when the snow is very dirty). I use the Race Werks Base Prep wax as my regular hot scrape wax in either the graphite or regular. Then directly on to whatever wax I am using or I leave the base prep wax on if I don't know the conditions.

 

I don't really think that there are real advantages to multiple coats of base prep wax other than for brand new skis. With new skis, I do multiple coats starting with soft and getting harder. Lots of scraping and brushing between. I like a series of mostly metal brushes. If you want them as fast as possible include moly waxes and fluros. Put as many coats as you can - you can't do too many. Let your time and interest level be your guide. I do racing and I do at least 10 coats.

post #8 of 13

I use Dominator Base Renew for base prep.  it comes in Graphite for Black bases and NON for clear. The stuff works like a charm

post #9 of 13

I also liked the Dominator base Renew. It is nice and soft and did a good job. I went back to the Race Werks SBC prep wax just because of the color (light grey) of the Dominator. I ski a lot on man made snow in the East and could not tell when the bases were clean. With the light orange SBC I can tell when all the dirt has come off. For the West, it probably would not be an issue.

post #10 of 13

If your local ski store has a hot box I'd consider that, at least for new skis ( works on old skis too ). It's the easiest way to get deep or total penetration of [base] wax in your bases. It's said that one hot boxing = up to twenty "ordinary" hot waxings. I'd do any base and edge work first, including a stone grind.

 

I'm using swix CH 10 as my base wax, it's norwegian, good and not too expensive ( in Norway ), any soft wax or base wax will do the trick.

 

If you type "hot box" in the search field on the top of the page you'll find many threads.

 

Happy skiing!

post #11 of 13
Being fiscially responsible (ie: cheap,) I use simple paraffin wax from the local Cub store for hot scraping/cleaning. I then apply my favorite (Hertzel) wax, let sit over night then scrape an buff the next morning. Is paraffing was ok to use as a cleaner wax?
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I am trying to find out if I can use Swixs BP99 for hot scraping my skis/board, or should i use CH10 for hot scrape then bp99 for pase prep then ch6 as my wax of the day choice, I am new to the forum and looked around but couldnt find any info on this, thanks



I have not looked at the thread yet, but I will tell you that sounds good.  You are smart.  BP99 is their soft base prep wax.  Must be great for hot scraping.  CH10 is soft too, so it would be good for that too.  You might want to go with a few waxings of the CH8, and CH7 before you go for the CH6.  That being said you are totally right!  Maybe the cost of the wax is something to look at, but I think both BP99, and CH10 are the same price.  Because you want CH6, you might want to use the harder BP77 for hot scraping.   Good skiing.

 

OK I looked at all the post, so you are on the fast track.  If you want more info see this video I made.  http://www.youtube.com/user/Sagina1999#p/u/10/YuQpyZC_ziI

 

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Originally Posted by TOMT View Post

Being fiscially responsible (ie: cheap,) I use simple paraffin wax from the local Cub store for hot scraping/cleaning. I then apply my favorite (Hertzel) wax, let sit over night then scrape an buff the next morning. Is paraffing was ok to use as a cleaner wax?


Yes, paraffin wax is fine for a hot scrape.  It will ski too.  Better than no wax for sure. 

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