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Liberty Double Helix

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Any thoughts on this ski?

 

I ski mostly Beaver Mt. and Snowbasin. I may end up with a pass at each this season. I can get  a decent deal on these via promotive so that's why I am focused on this brand.

 

Looking for a resort powder ski. I want something that skis pow and resort powder day conditions really well. If it has a bit of versatility for use a couple days after as well thats great too but not the priority. I am tired of skiing the praxis powders in the morning and then changing to Huge Trouble or The Ones in the afternoon. Basically am looking for a "The One" but 120mm under foot. I like a fun, softer flexing ski off piste and a slarvy feel. I tend to go medium speed, not fast charging. I ski lots of tight trees and also like to do some flowy lines with fun mellow drops up to about 10'.

 

Looking primarily at the 190cm length because its a rockered twin design which always ski pretty short.

 

Will mount dukes on them so will have some touring as well, but mostly resort use with some slack country stuff as well not all day tours. 

 

So is this the right ski for me or what?


Edited by tromano - 8/6/11 at 5:45pm
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They were demoing the DH at Alta in early January, but it was a hard snow day (for Alta after a week of trace). I didn't feel like trying them but saw guys on them with the tips flapping.  Definitely fat (real big tail) and what looked like a lot of rocker on the new model.   I would guess somewhat soft judging by the way I saw them warbling under the Collins lift.  I did talk to the rep and handled the ski which looked nicely constructed, but  I have no real valuable input.   Surely, somebody at least demoed them.  

 

This guy at TGR is saying they have minimal rocker and a bit of camber, but one of the last posts in the thread is about the new model which is rockered each direction from the foot.  Must be the ski I checked out, cause it seemed to be ROCKERED.

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/149075-Review-liberty-Double-Helix 

 

This is kind of generic and uniformitive like my 3rd party input.  The two who demoed them from the below review did not give the ski super marks for tight turn agility, but you probably searched and found this already.

 

http://www.rateskigear.com/categories/skissnowboards/alpine-skis/powder-2/double-helix-2 

 

An early August bump.

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We just got a pair of 182's in at our consignment sale. They have Griffons on them and are in fantastic condition. There was one base shot but that was fixed perfect. Skis will be 399 + shipping. 

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Brig, thanks for the bump. The new models (which were released midseason last year) have what Liberty is calling stealth rocker in tip and tail. Still not sure if there is camber under foot or not. All reviews of th enew version I have read are generally positive but are lacking in specifics. I am curious if its more a charger or more of a floppy ski or somewhere in the middle.

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Abort thread. I decided to snap up a pair of 190cm Wailer 112RPs that showed up in Gear Swap...

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Good call.

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I still haven't tried any Liberty skis.  I was excited to get on them last season.  I remember Phil suggesting that they might not be what I was looking for.  Have you been on them Phil?  Or are you simply suspicious of the bamboo core.  My friend didn't rep for them last season as expected, because the company started flaking out.  There have been a few pairs showing up and the reviews seem good, but not from anyone who I know I have complete confidence in.  One of the guys also swears his SkiLogics are the best skis ever.  I was less than impressed with any of the SkiLogic models I demoed. 

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The DH is sort of mysterious. The only place I found much in terms of reviews was on TGR and it was all pretty vague. Most of the reviews were saying the ski rips, its versatile it is and how well it carves... "its a great everyday ski". A few seemed to indicate that powder performance is lacking (probably written before the rocker was added).

 

I think with rocker things like  flex, tip geometry, and rocker profile are a much bigger part of the game than pure fatness once you get above about about 100mm. Heck the ones at 98 under foot are vastly superior in powder and soft snow to Dynastar Huge Troubles (chili pepper graphic) which are 115 and float likes stones...

 

To me for a ski 120 underfoot and people are talking about how well it carves... and not gushing about its powder performance -- that's sort of a red flag. I am looking for something powder and soft snow oriented...

 

The DPS on the other hand seems to be a powder ski first and can also rip the rest of the mountain...

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Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post

I still haven't tried any Liberty skis.  I was excited to get on them last season.  I remember Phil suggesting that they might not be what I was looking for.  Have you been on them Phil?  Or are you simply suspicious of the bamboo core.  My friend didn't rep for them last season as expected, because the company started flaking out.  There have been a few pairs showing up and the reviews seem good, but not from anyone who I know I have complete confidence in.  One of the guys also swears his SkiLogics are the best skis ever.  I was less than impressed with any of the SkiLogic models I demoed. 



When I was with Hart, we had some skis that came out of the same factory and I wasn't impressed with them considering the other skis in the category. Bamboo is tough to work with and inconstant as a core material. The SkiLogics are some of the better garage/boutique in that range though plus they look great!

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