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Looking at New Gear, Am I Too Inexperienced?

post #1 of 9
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Hey guys, first post here...


I started skiing in January of this year. I had gone out a few times over the years, but I didn't really get into it until last winter. I went out about 8 times over the rest of the winter, and I felt like I was making pretty significant improvements each time. By the end of the winter, I was skiing down black diamonds pretty confidently.


This winter, I plan on going out a lot more, and I'm thinking about getting involved in racing. I was also thinking about taking some advanced lessons and clinics.


I bought some equipment last winter, Head Edge 9.5 boots and K2 Shockwave 163s. I'm really clueless when it comes to this stuff, but I've had my heart set on getting some better performing equipment for a few months now. The only worry I have is that I will buy something that is too advanced for me. I would like a challenge, but not to the point where the gear is significantly hampering my performance.


My plan was to get boots before the season, and then demo skis during the season. I've really been looking at either the Head Vector 120 or the Raptor 130RS for boots, and the Supershape Magnum or Titans for skis (either 163 or 170).


What do you guys think, am I way over my head?


I'm 5' 9.5", 135lb and for this winter I'll be skiing East coast at Seven Springs near Pittsburgh.

post #2 of 9

Hey c welcome to Epicski. I think the Shockwave is a great ski for 7Springs. Do you like the way your boots fit? The most important piece of equipment for you to invest in right now is you. Take that lesson, see how it goes. There are several folks here on epic that ski at Seven Springs regularly, maybe once the season starts you can get together with us for a few runs.

post #3 of 9
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Hi Jimmy, thanks for the welcome!


I really like the way my boots fit, they are extremely comfortable and I have no problems skiing on them for 8 hour sessions. The only issue I had was that as the season progressed and I began to ski some of the faster runs, especially on the North Face, I began to feel less in control. Now I'm sure a lot of that had to do with the fact that I'm still not an advanced skier but I'm wondering if some of that had to do with my boots too. I tried them on the other day and I could flex them really easy (they have a 70 flex), so I wanted to see how a stiffer boot would affect my skiing.


I just don't want to make the mistake of buying a boot that is too stiff for my abilities. I was looking at the Raptor RS115 and the Vector 120, if my foot is comfortable in them do you think I would be ok with the boots?


And I hope to see you up on the slopes too! If you couldn't tell, I'm really excited for the season.biggrin.gif



post #4 of 9

Chris boot flex is not my area of expertise. I am 2" shorter and 35# heavier than you and wear a 90 flex. You want to be able to flex your ankles. Try your boots on again tonight if anyone makes fun of you trying ski boots on in August tell them i said it's ok, it's therapy, therapy is good. When you flex how much can you slide your foot from front to back in the boot, side to side? Not much?

post #5 of 9

get your boots professionally fitted. As a rough guide, take out your liners and push your toes forward. You should have no more than two finger spaces behind your heel and the back of your boot. Stating that your boots are comfortable right out of the get-go, tells me they are too big.


Go to a good shop and have them fit you. Different brands have different foot shapes as well as different models.


a 130 flex for 125#, 2nd year skier is a little absurd. Unless you ski everyday. You want to be able to flex the boot somewhat. I run 140, skiied 7 year and weigh in at 185.


post #6 of 9

A 130 flex may be too much, but 70 is certainly not enough, imho.


Agree that you should get your boots professionally fitted. Besides skill, boot fit is the most important aspect of control; 2nd is skis suited to the speed you ski.

post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks guys. :)


I tried the boots on again and I couldn't move my ankle at all, but I could flex easily, especially when I stepped into my skis. I'll try them on again without the liners and see how roomy they are.


I figured that 130 would be too much, which is why I like the RS115, since it can drop down to 105 as well. But the local shop is having a big pre-season sale in a month, so I'll go and have some new boots fitted (I had my originals fitted there anyways).

Edit: I tried on the boots without the liners and I could fit about four fingers in with my foot all the way forward. Granted, I have really small hands but it sounds like these boots would be too big for me once the liners pack out.

Edited by cmcnulty - 8/9/11 at 6:29pm
post #8 of 9

glad u attempted to check the fit yourself. As you stated, the reason for poor performance isn't the boot flex. its the sizing of the boot.


good luck


post #9 of 9

Hi c and welcome.


Did you say you could fit 4 fingers behind your heel when shell fitting? That's A LOT and makes me wonder if you did it correctly. Is the gap between your heel and the boot about 2,5 - 3 inches? If you think of line from your [mid] heel going through the middle of your foot forwards and extend the line backwards, that's how you should measure. In my boots I have about 1,5 cm or app 1/2 inch. You should also consider getting a footbed.


Also, type "shell fit" in the search field on top of the page, you'll find answers to most questions on this topic.


You marry your boots and date your skis.


Here's a Youtube link :  www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK0h_4VJdoA  that describes the process. ( I can't make the link "click-able", copy and paste ). Not perfect, but the best I found.


After you get your boots it's time to demo, demo and demo skis. Taking lessons is always smart, from your post it seems you've made rapid progress on your own, imagine how you will progress when learning from a good instructor.


Good luck and Happy Skiing!

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