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Did I buy too small 2009 Gotamas?

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Hi All, Based in part on some glowing reviews here and elsewhere, I recently purchased a pair of new 2009 Volkl Gotama's as a soft-snow/powder (when we get it in Maine) alternative to my 173cm Volkl Racetiger RC's. I'm 45 years old, 5'10",  185 lbs., and an advanced skier. I bought the 176cm Volkl Gotama's, as that was the only size left, and I figured that they'd be OK, as my 173cm Racetiger's suit me quite well.

 

After I purchased the Gotama's (of course), I also found some threads here and elsewhere discussing how the 2009 Gotama's ski "short" and are, in fact, shorter than labeled. I put a tape to my Gotama's and found that to be the case: the 176cm ski is actually more like a 171.5cm ski. When I subtract the lost running length of the kick tail (maybe 7cm), I'm looking at what would seem to be a fairly short ski. (The tip of the skis hit me mid-forehead when I'm standing stocking-footed, but if I exclude the running length lost to the kick tail, the tips reach my mouth.)

 

Some other context before I level some questions: Powder in Maine (and at Sugarloaf, where I do most of my skiing) is infrequent and far from bottomless when we're blessed with it. Part of what appeals to me about the 2009 Gotama is that it's a non-rockered ski, allowing me, in theory, to enjoy more float when we're blessed with powder, while providing me the ability to negotiate the harder snow en route to the lift when the fun is over.

 

So, my questions to the group are these: A) Are the 176's too short for me in general? B) What about in "powder" that might only be -- at most -- 10 inches deep? and C) If they are on the short side, what downsides can I expect to experience in the ride?

 

Many thanks, in advance, for the sage advice.

post #2 of 6

That's a little short, but you'll be fine. You won't die, and they'll be way better than your Racetigers. You have months to second guess yourself, but in the end you're gonna like 'em then you can take that first data point and move on to your next pair with a little more experience.

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Ive got a pair of last years gotamas in a 186. I'm 6'0" and about 200 lbs. The recent model gotamas are fully rockered from tip to tail, so 186 is really easy to turn on any kind of soft snow, and i probably could have even gone for the 194, but i was a little worried about carrying the extra length in tighter lines through the trees.

 

But if i read your post right, the 09s dont have a full rocker, i guess volkl started doing that with the gotama in 2010. For your size, you probably could have gone longer, but all youre losing is a little bit of stability, so unless youre skiing bottomless pow every day or hucking big mountain lines, you wont notice much difference other than the fact that the shorter skis are easier to turn. And keep in mind that the turned up tips and tails will be running on the snow if youre skiing powder, so youre back up to a full 176 length.

 

For maine, youre probably gonna be just fine.

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That's a little short, but you'll be fine. You won't die, and they'll be way better than your Racetigers. You have months to second guess yourself, but in the end you're gonna like 'em then you can take that first data point and move on to your next pair with a little more experience.

^^^ What he said. Owned these. Skiing short doesn't mean that the 176 will be inappropriate, just bit better suited to trees, bumps, medium radius turns, bit less well suited to crashing deep crud or long radius arcs at speed. Nice skis, enjoy. 
 

 

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I'm 5'9" and 170.  My fresh snow skis are a 101 mm 192 twin and a 91 mm 183.  The 183 cm actually has more running length than the 192 cm  does.  I prefer long, but I wouldn't pass up a really good deal on a 176 twin that rides 171.  Ski iticon14.gif  If you see something longer on clearance add those to the quiver too, but It's much harder to find the 180+ aged merchandise.

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I'm about your size and age.  Maybe 10-15 lbs lighter, but wouldn't swear to itredface.gif.  I got a pair of those 176 Gotomas several years ago and loved them.  I could have gotten any size and was torn about the length.  One of my supervisors convinced me to go with the shorter.  I think it was a good choice for teaching, the longer ski might have been harder to do demos on.  I found the ski to be great in almost all conditions.  I got a pair of light titanium bindings and it is by far the lightest ski in my quiver.  Very nimble and very versitle.  From the day I bought them, they became almost the only ski I used for two seasons (probably about 150 days on them).  I didn't ski them much this past season as I was given a pair of 188 S7 that I love even more.  When I did take out the Goats last season they felt short and soft after the S7.  It's all a matter of what you're used to.  I used to think I "needed" a long ski.  Then I proved to myself that my long skis where holding me back technically.  I went shorter and got my technique up to speed and now find that I "might" want to go a bit longer again.  By long I mean that I never skied less than 195 before PSIA.  I dropped to a stiff pair of 170s my first two years in PSIA and now ski mostly in the upper 170s or low 180s.  I did find the lower limit when I bought the 169 Enforcers, they were on sale.  That ski was fun and I ripped on it, but it would tip dive in deeper snow and I had to sit back a little to fight that.  I think you will be fine on the 176.  I also think that many people who ski long are compensating for somethingrolleyes.gif.  I also think that some people can't ski on a short ski because they don't have good fore/aft balance and need the length to support them in the back seat.

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