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What prompted this thread was Telerod's comment that BWPA puts everybody down (in the "Best way to learn Bumps?" thread).  ...


Okay, I see; I learned to steer clear of that thread a long time ago. Thanks.

 

Well, my opinion is very much that of VA's. I have actually come to enjoy reading his posts, even though they take a little extra. Different voices are interesting. I mean, Bob Barnes posts these perfectly written, impeccably supported paragraphs that are a joy to read and easy to understand. It's like listening to Bach, everything is all harmonic and fits together like a puzzle. THen Bush comes in like John Cage and initially kind of assaults your senses, but with a little patience and effort to decipher, you realize there is something meaningful there, too, if just a bit less accessible.

 

And people just need to stop taking things so personally. If your self-worth fluctuates depending on how well (or poorly) you think others view your skiing, well, that's silly. 

post #32 of 299

Bushwackerin PM' ed me this a few weeks ago when a moderator got in the middle of us,

 

 

"""pdiddy is on my ignore list with Rossi and bunch of other people now.

 

Josh"""

 

So apparently Josh, or bushwackerin want's us to reply on a thread that he can't even read because according to him, "WE ARE ON HIS IGNORE LIST" (actually kind of funny),   Other than that,  looks like someone needs a hug.  

post #33 of 299

1st- Blue square: Skiing is an inherently dangerous sport when done correctly...... I take it blue square means just that, easy skiing on intermediate terrain, nothing wrong with that but a lot of us enjoy pushing and challenging ourselves and this is the kind of skiing we like and appreciate when others do it. Now then, please go to realskier or paula's.... GEEEZEEE,, this is what's killing this site!  BTW-  the coffee is hot at McDonalds..... don't put your hand down the sink when the disposal is on: the bears at yellowstone aren't tame...  and dont forget this fact; skiing on the groomed is more dangerous than skiing off piste.

 

Bush- I get you; A.D.D. can be a great thing when effectively managed! :) (I know by personal experience, but it won't be until you get a few years down the road to learn) Remember, most genius is never recognized in its' own generation... You are a very talented athlete, you have a lot of skill and want to be recognized for this (and you should) and wish you could get others to subscribe to your theories and skill sets.I am sure you are aware that you can be harsh, rush to judgment and inflammatory. However, I will ski with you any day and I do read your responses to my posts.  You have provided me with good advice and a lot of laughs I love the POV's, I don't take things so personally but I do wish that you would be less abrasive to those with legitimate questions: you may be taken more seriously and viewed with more authority. 

 

I think you have the typical anti-authority issues and may be right about much of it but remember:  It is easier to chip away at a mountain than to try to destroy it with one strike...

 

Great summer post....

 

 


Edited by Finndog - 7/27/11 at 7:21am
post #34 of 299
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Originally Posted by pdiddy View Post

Bushwackerin PM' ed me this a few weeks ago when a moderator got in the middle of us,

 

 

"""pdiddy is on my ignore list with Rossi and bunch of other people now.

 

Josh"""

 

So apparently Josh, or bushwackerin want's us to reply on a thread that he can't even read because according to him, "WE ARE ON HIS IGNORE LIST" (actually kind of funny),   Other than that,  looks like someone needs a hug.  



Damn.....so really no point at all to writing anything!

 

Saved me a LOT of typing  biggrin.gif

 

 

post #35 of 299
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I think when you repeatedly are exposed to a perfect injury-free act of something, especially if it inspires you, that fascination and inspiration pertaining to the dangerous act can supersede judgement about the safety of such an activity and can lead somebody into dangerous situations.

 

There is peer pressure, and now I believe we have Internet POV pressure.  It is actually worse when people are wearing their GoPros because then it's not just about skiing and having fun, it is about capturing a specific run and making a movie that will serve as an exposition of talent and accomplishment (among other things) especially if it is posted here at EpicSki (lets face it nobody posts cruising on blue and green runs because that skiing wouldn't be revered here, even if many really do it).  People can easily feel pressured to push themselves too hard, too far out of their safety zone and take ridiculous risks to make their POV footage just a little bit cooler, just a little bit more epic.

 

 

TGR did a really good thing with "Light the Wick" in the last AK segment where they showed a series of injuries/falls (they also showed this in the opening reel).  It is a reminder of the danger.  And it was good that NBC opened up the "Truth in Motion" with the reminder of the dangers of downhill racing.  It's easy to get all high on the talent watching DH racing or TGR extreme skiing, but sometimes it is beneficial to be sobered by a reminder of some of the real risks associated with those activities when they go wrong and cause injury.

Fixed it for you.

 

Who is applying this "pressure"?  Why does your glade run POV have to be as fast as someone else's?  My only gripe with BWPA is that he knows where to find better snow at Stowe then I do, but I'm sure I know better places at Blue Mountain then he does. cool.gif

 

post #36 of 299
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Fixed it for you.

 

Who is applying this "pressure"?  Why does your glade run POV have to be as fast as someone else's?  My only gripe with BWPA is that he knows where to find better snow at Stowe then I do, but I'm sure I know better places at Blue Mountain then he does. cool.gif

 



like the view in my rear view mirror when leaving?  biggrin.gif

 

post #37 of 299

 

There couldn't be a more perfect screen name for BlueSquare.  What a tool... 

 

Just because you can't do something, doesn't mean it's not safe.  And FWIW, you are WAY more likely to be injured or killed skiing on a blue run, losing control and sliding off trail into a tree than skiing in glades themselves.   

 

BWPA has more enthusiasm and LOVE for this sport than ANYONE I've ever met, and I was in the industry for 15 years.....  

 

post #38 of 299

I met Josh through epic 6 or 7 years ago and the first thing he did was got me hooked on MTB riding. He is a great guy. I consider him a friend.

 

Bluesquare, stop being so pedantic. You are really putting the gaper gap in "gapicski".

post #39 of 299

JOESHOTO?JOESHOTO?JOESHOTO?

post #40 of 299
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There couldn't be a more perfect screen name for BlueSquare.  What a tool...  You don't know me or how I ski, therefore this comment is ignorant. 

 

Just because you can't do something, doesn't mean it's not safe. This is not true

 

 And FWIW, you are WAY more likely to be injured or killed skiing on a blue run, losing control and sliding off trail into a tree than skiing in glades themselves.   This is not true.  I only agree with this for long flat cattracks in precarious locations.

 

 


I don't have beef with his videos, his skiing, or anything else like that; just the fact he doesn't ever have safety disclaimers (now slowly let that sink in), and his general attitude toward people well below his ability level.

 

 

But of course, God forbid any of you would know that becuase you didn't actually read the entirety of any of my posts (but let's be real, who does read more than a few sentences of anyone's posts?).  Further, some of the concepts probably couldn't be understood by some of you (if you did read them), thus the insults.

 

If you all want to be hard-asses, I'm sure you're aware TGR forums exists.

 

 

 

Some of the comments above about: "oh you're a tool, you suck, you can't ski glades" are actually the problem with this site (and just make it a more refined version of TGR).  It is this attitude that is the reason many people don't like bushwacker, and why many intermediate skiers feel poorly about their skiing after showing up here.

 

 

And yes, only 5% of skiers can ski glades like BWPA.  Many more can ski glades, but not that fast.

 

 

to finndog who said "some of us like pushing ourselves," yeah don't we all.  I don't have beef with where he skis, or where anyone else skis.  But let's not kid ourselves 99% of us aren't pros, and our performance on "epic terrain" is going to be pretty gapic (relatively speaking), no matter how much fun we have.

 

post #41 of 299

So sorry. Mom here. I don't know Bushwacker and am not that active on the forum, but Blue Square compelled me to chime in.

 

I agree with Seg and others on the POV. Good grief, what about all those terrific videos of back country skiing, or X-games in the terrain park or throwing oneself off cliffs or riding monster waves, or base jumping or, or or....

 

I mean some of my absolute favorite videos and photos here and posts I miss the most were from Tyrone Shoelaces. But believe me I would not go out and try to do any of that. This is just common sense and if one started insisting on disclaimers on anything that might hurt you in a ski forum, we would lose the dialog completely.

 

I suspect that Mr. INPA is a lot more personable in person than he sometimes comes off when impatient on the forum. I mean anyone who posts -- with obvious pride -- the sweet videos of his teenage girl  students "ripping" the deep snow has the right heart IMO.

post #42 of 299
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Originally Posted by BlueSquare View Post




I don't have beef with his videos, his skiing, or anything else like that; just the fact he doesn't ever have safety disclaimers (now slowly let that sink in), and his general attitude toward people well below his ability level.

 

 

But of course, God forbid any of you would know that becuase you didn't actually read the entirety of any of my posts (but let's be real, who does read more than a few sentences of anyone's posts?).  Further, some of the concepts probably couldn't be understood by some of you (if you did read them), thus the insults.

 

If you all want to be hard-asses, I'm sure you're aware TGR forums exists.

 

 

 

Some of the comments above about: "oh you're a tool, you suck, you can't ski glades" are actually the problem with this site (and just make it a more refined version of TGR).  It is this attitude that is the reason many people don't like bushwacker, and why many intermediate skiers feel poorly about their skiing after showing up here.

 

 

And yes, only 5% of skiers can ski glades like BWPA.  Many more can ski glades, but not that fast.

 

 

to finndog who said "some of us like pushing ourselves," yeah don't we all.  I don't have beef with where he skis, or where anyone else skis.  But let's not kid ourselves 99% of us aren't pros, and our performance on "epic terrain" is going to be pretty gapic (relatively speaking), no matter how much fun we have.

 

 

Actually I am pretty sure everyone read your whole point the first time, and the second time and even the 5th and 6th times you made it. Geeze.

post #43 of 299

Dear blue Square... 1st off, the facts regarding on piste injury rates vs off-piste injury rates are true, ignorance of the facts don't change them.

 

How can you call yourself blue square and be pushing yourself?  You don't know where I ski but I can tell you that of the skiers here, many more than 5% ski terrain like that. 

 

Please change your login name to "DebbieDowner"..... 

post #44 of 299
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

 why dont you guys get it out of your system here.

 

 


I've watched your vids, seen your posts, and come to the following conclusion:

 

You need to get rid of the green and orange poles.

 

The colors seem to clash violently with your yellow and red jackets.  I would suggest a nice neutral color to match your skis, such as a gray or black.  The other alternative would be to get a Fila jacket emblazoned with logowear from the Miami Dolphins.  If you continue this behavior, we may soon find ourselves with even more garish clothing on the mountain.  Can you imagine the return of the Nevica one-piece in those colors?  Please consider the style implications you're portraying to our youth.  

 

post #45 of 299

Blue Square,

 

you need to stop and back away from the key board.

 

Your issue with Josh, is because he is a good skier and you are afraid that someone will get hurt trying to emulate him, are you serious.

 

You also state that people will not feel good about themselves because they can not ski as well as Josh, are you serious.

 

You are not doing your self any favors and coming off like an overbearing mother afraid to let the kids play in the front yard.

 

Yes, people will and do get hurt participating in all types of sports or athletic endeavors. It's the fear and overcoming those fears that make these activities exciting.

 

Personally, I thrive on any activity that produces an adrenalin rush and those I enjoy it with feel the same.

post #46 of 299
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and his general attitude toward people well below his ability level.

 

 


He only has attitude toward people below his ability level who think they are the shit, or at least talk like they think they are all that. I love how he thinks everyone is capable of skiing like he does, eventually. I'm not nearly so optimistic and big-hearted (or, as others would say, naive wink.gif).

 

I was with him in Colorado when he drove over 2 hr each way after skiing one evening to pick up a former student (who was below his ability level) so that she could come ski with us the next day. I mean, really ... I'm not sure I would do that for my own flesh and blood.

 

post #47 of 299

I had the same reaction - I thought he was joking and was stunned later in the thread to see he was serious.
 

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This is one of the funniest things I've ever read on epicski. What's even funnier, is that it appears to be genuine and not a well crafted spoof.

 

 



 

post #48 of 299
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Originally Posted by PukeSno View Post

Blue Square,

 

you need to stop and back away from the key board.  Pretty sure I care as much about this comment as others do about mine. 

 

Your issue with Josh, is because he is a good skier and you are afraid that someone will get hurt trying to emulate him, are you serious.  It happens.

 

You also state that people will not feel good about themselves because they can not ski as well as Josh, are you serious.  Maybe not with him, but that issue is rampant within the ski community and especially on this forum

 

You are not doing your self any favors and coming off like an overbearing mother afraid to let the kids play in the front yard.  You imbecile, I think people should be aware of the risks associated with an activity (such as gliding through the glades like BWPA takes tremendous talent and if you attempt that without extensive skills you are going to hit a tree)... I don't think people shouldn't ski the glades.

 

Yes, people will and do get hurt participating in all types of sports or athletic endeavors. It's the fear and overcoming those fears that make these activities exciting.  Yeah really, that's why I race and ski fast.

 

Personally, I thrive on any activity that produces an adrenalin rush and those I enjoy it with feel the same.  Yeah, that's why I ski very fast, race, and rip ridiculous carves, especially under the lift (ahh, just waiting for smack talk about this).


All I'm requesting is a short disclaimer about tree-skiing safety that would take BWPA 10 seconds to write (oh, maybe 120 if he needs to consult a thesaurus).  I know he probably wont do it, but he asked for opinions... I'm not sure why anybody is averse to there being a safety disclaimer on POV videos (and not just his)... even if it was in the TR section at the top as a sticky in red, or something.

 

post #49 of 299
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Originally Posted by BlueSquare View Post
 I'm not sure why anybody is averse to there being a safety disclaimer on POV videos (and not just his)...

 

 

Umm, We have common sense and know that there is an inherent risk in any type of skiing?   I've seen people get seriously hurt in level 1 lessons.  Do we need safety disclaimers on POV's from green runs?????? 
 

 

post #50 of 299

Jimmy could be right.....

 

Could Blue Square be the next iteration of Joeshoto?

 

 

Mods???

post #51 of 299

BlueSquare

 

You are just digging a deeper hole.

 

You just joined this month and have offended or turned off many members on this forum.

 

Oh, and thanks for calling me an "Imbecile" you douche bag.

 

PS

post #52 of 299
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1.  He only has attitude toward people below his ability level who think they are the shit, or at least talk like they think they are all that.

 

2.  I love how he thinks everyone is capable of skiing like he does, eventually.

 


1.  What qualifies as "thinking you are the shit"???  Actually, he crucifies anybody's posts that contain any information he believes is incorrect, regardless of any attitude.  A side not, even if somebody only skis a certain type of run and is proud of that, that is no less worthy that BWPA's pride in backcountry treks in the green mountains.

 

2.  "everyone capable of skiing like he does."  And what does he ski like?  I'm pretty sure on a site like this there are many skiers much more accomplished than he is, though they may not be the ones who go around touting it.  He is the self-proclaimed ski god, and that is part of the problem some people have with him.  He has an attitude that is unparalleled; he doesn't go to the gym but believes because he mountain bikes that he is "stronger than anyone [his] age."

 

2.  And if somebody can't, or doesn't want to ski glades, then in his estimation they are not really skiing.  He thinks his skiing is the gold standard, and that other kinds are less worthy.  It goes along with his egocentricity.

 

At least he admits his Snowbird POV wasn't "balsy" enough to be entertaining and that open-bowl POV is boring (and here he is putting pressure on himself, of all people, to deliver with the POV).

post #53 of 299
Josh, don't worry about things you can't control. Come to the Tetons and forget about everything else.

Remember the Epic Gathering at Snowbird? You, me & Bob Peters guiding everyone around on the 30" day? Those are the things you need to think about - not being criticized over POV's or your passion for the sport.

Cheers

HB
post #54 of 299
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Originally Posted by PukeSno View Post

BlueSquare

 

You are just digging a deeper hole.  Whoa man, this is just a ski forum.

 

You just joined this month and have offended or turned off many members on this forum.  Oh really, is there a thread in the supporter's lounge?  Who hasn't offended or turned off a member?  What are we all going for here?  Most of us will never meet the other members in real life... most of us are here just to kill time, and engage in discussion about something we are passionate about, betwixt and between the actual questions about gear or technique, etc.

 

Oh, and thanks for calling me an "Imbecile" you douche bag.  No worries.

 

PS


 

 

post #55 of 299
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All I'm requesting is a short disclaimer about tree-skiing safety that would take BWPA 10 seconds to write (oh, maybe 120 if he needs to consult a thesaurus).  I know he probably wont do it, but he asked for opinions... I'm not sure why anybody is averse to there being a safety disclaimer on POV videos (and not just his)... even if it was in the TR section at the top as a sticky in red, or something.

 

Honestly, I am not sure why your are singling out BWPA's POV's.  What is the difference from that same "kid" watching BWPA skiing trees while on an adjacent trail or riding the lift up?  Is the inherent risk any less than watching that same skier on a POV?
 

 

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ahh summer.......

post #57 of 299

I wish I was as smart as Blue Square, maybe someday.

post #58 of 299
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Honestly, I am not sure why your are singling out BWPA's POV's.  What is the difference from that same "kid" watching BWPA skiing trees while on an adjacent trail or riding the lift up?  Is the inherent risk any less than watching that same skier on a POV?
 

 



Well if the culture at the ski hill created an excessively uncomfortable environment for the "kid" who couldn't ski like the "experts," then they might feel pressured to push themselves too far and attempt to thrown down a line in the glades.

 

Additionally, with POV it looks easy and harmless... it's a different experience than watching somebody do it.  Also, I think alot of his POV isn't even in-bounds.

 

But again, there should just be safety disclaimers, NOT a withdrawal of or discontinuation of posting those videos.

post #59 of 299
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 I'm pretty sure on a site like this there are many skiers much more accomplished than he is, 


Which he admits, all the time.

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ahh summer.......



...and the trolls just march right in.....

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