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post #31 of 39

I got rained on at the bottom of snowbird all weekend a few years ago in Feb sooo....  .  

post #32 of 39

I decided to review some data from snowtel network to see what that shows. Data from the snowbird snowtel site seems to indicate that on 12/25, 1/6, 1/7, 1/16, and 1/28 there was measurable precip when the temperature was above 0* c... So that's 5 days from December and January with "rain"... that's what I would call a lot.

post #33 of 39

I've seen it snow when the temperature is above freezing, and you have too.  That means nothing.  Here is our precip tracker from last season.  Even on the rain day we received a trace of snow at mid-mountain.  In fact, there wasn't a single day last season where we received precip and no measurable snow.

 

http://www.alta.com/pages/snowfallhistory.php

 

It's funny (no, more sad) that when you think of last ski season you don't think of the great early opening, the near record snowfall, closing with a 200" base, or skiing on the 4th of July.  No, you focus on the one rain event.

post #34 of 39

True, I have actually seen it snow in Utah Valley in August when it was 60* F out... that was in a convective thunderstorm.

 

There is a broad spectrum of conditions from liquid rain to powder snow... We got all of it where I was skiing last year mostly Beaver and snowbasin during Dec / January...  I was told by my friend a guy who skis 150 days a season at the bird that it "rained" 3-4 times, snotel seems to reflect that it may have rained that much. Was it liquid rain or wintery mix? I don't know... I really don't want to continue to argue the facts any further. Lets just agree to disagree.

 

I think you are misreading me. I loved skiing Alta thanks giving weekend. I loved the long season. I don't mind skiing wet or heavy snow. Don't really mind skiing in the rain either (I grew up skiing PA). It was a great great season and even a great season has a few rotten weeks and some weird weather. Its like baseball, even the very best teams loses 50+ games a year.

 

My only point was posting in this thread was to convey that to the OP. Plenty of people talk about coming here sometimes for years and getting skunked by lousy conditions every time. That is real life, that's what happens when you book a trip 6 months in advance and don't have flexibility to chase storms or to go when its good.

 

$.02


Edited by tromano - 8/10/11 at 7:59am
post #35 of 39
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Originally Posted by liv2 ski View Post

Greetings,

 

I have never skied any of the areas mentioned and a group of friends are debating where to go the last week of January.

I am leaning more towards Utah, as we will be at the mountain in about 60 minutes after landing.  I am not sure we can do that at Jackson Hole.  If the travel time is like from the airport to Vail, forget about it.

All of us are advanced (not expert) skiers, so I really think we would have fun regardless of where we go.  So if you have been to both areas, where would you go and why?

Thanks for your 2 cents.



I've ridden both areas (snowboarder).
A few points/questions

1.  When you say 'travel time from the airport to Vail', do you mean from Denver International Airport (2+ hours) or Vail Eagle Airport (30 min)?

 

2. Jackson Hole Mountain Resort/Teton Village is almost always ~25-30 minutes from the airport.  The roads between the airport, the town of Jackson, and the mountain are pretty flat, so there is almost no risk of getting snowed out.   By contrast, Little Cottonwood Canyon road gets shut down for a few hours due to heavy snow fairly regularly because the road runs through a narrow valley/pass.  It is rarely closed for more than ~8 hours, but if you get lucky and fly in after a snowstorm then you might have to wait a few hours longer than 60 minutes to get onto a ski lift.

 

3. "Expert" skiers, eh?  I can pretty much guarantee that you won't still be saying that after you ride Jackson Hole.  Alta/Snowbird is no slouch either, but JH has a whopping 10% of inbounds beginner terrain which amounts to 3 slopes if memory serves... Pooh Bear, Eagle's Nest and the bottom of Aprez Vous.  

 

4. Given the choice, I would choose Jackson.... but only for semantic, subjective reasons.  Airfare is slightly cheaper to Jackson (which is strange, because the flight often stops in SLC) and I keep telling myself that one day I'll have enough guts to throw myself over Corbet's.  Can't go wrong with either location, though.

 

As a skier, if you want to avoid us pesky snowboarders, then you should take note that Alta is ski-only.   No need to worry about clumsy, lower-middle class southerners running over your skis or taking cat naps in the middle of the run.  LOL.

 

post #36 of 39

Here are my reasons for choosing Jackson over Salt Lake city

 

1. Altitude - The peak of Rendzevous Mountain at JHMR is at ~10,450 ft. and Teton Village itself sits at 6,329 ft.   Snowbird's base is at 7,700 ft and the peak of the mountain is 11,000 ft.  SLC isn't as bad as Breckenridge, but you'll be spending your entire day at Snowbird above 8,000 ft.

 

2. The Snow King - is a small resort in the town of Jackson that even offers night skiing 4 nights a week.  If you have a transportation waiting for you can easily be on a ski lift within 15-20 minutes of leaving the airport

post #37 of 39

what, you have  problem in Breck which sits @ 9,600 and peaks out @ 12,998? ha, me too!!!!!   i now ski @ the Tahoe resorts and get winded here. biggrin.gif

post #38 of 39
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Originally Posted by Tarzanman View Post

 

3. "Expert" skiers, eh?  I can pretty much guarantee that you won't still be saying that after you ride Jackson Hole.  Alta/Snowbird is no slouch either, but JH has a whopping 10% of inbounds beginner terrain which amounts to 3 slopes if memory serves... Pooh Bear, Eagle's Nest and the bottom of Aprez Vous.


Thanks for your other comments, but I didn't say anything about being expert skiers. I hate it when all I read on here is, "level 9 skier, former racer, go big or go home, I am the best skier on the mtn".  I am not that guywink.gif

 

post #39 of 39
Every year I go on a 4 day trip with my advanced buddies. We never hit Utah anymore because we can easily go there for a 2-3 day weekend. Last year, we hit JH for 4 ski days (1 travel day to get there but you might be able to get in later and travel in eve)

End of last Jan we got some nice leftovers after an 8" storm at JH. Was about 20 deg on mountain for our ski days

I was in Park City last year for MLK Day weekend and got rained on at 7000'. It was probably snowing gloop in Alta that weekend FWIW.

If you have 4.5 days, hit JH. If traveling to JH leaves you only 3 ski days then hit Alta/Bird and then JH next year.

Don't even worry about the advanced v expert designation. If you and your buddies can ski black diamonds then JH will have plenty to offer for far more than 4 days.
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