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post #31 of 87

http://unofficialnetworks.com/le-velo-29354/

 

click I thought it was pretty funny.

post #32 of 87
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Wow. Sound like today was absolute carnage. El Pistolero crashed twice, Brajckovic is out along with a bunch of others, and the list of folk who didn't crash appears to be shorter than that who did. I'm looking forward to reviewing the festivities this evening.

 

Mike

post #33 of 87
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Wow. Sound like today was absolute carnage. El Pistolero crashed twice, Brajckovic is out along with a bunch of others, and the list of folk who didn't crash appears to be shorter than that who did. I'm looking forward to reviewing the festivities this evening.

 

Mike

 

it amazes me how often these guys crash. Everyone of them was rider caused except for the motocycle. 

 

 

 

post #34 of 87
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Yea, and how resilient they are. I'm still recovering from my crash a week and a half ago. While I was able to ride 2 miles home, there's no way I could've done what most of those guys did. Contrador got up twice, and Boonen barely finished under the time limit because of how hard he crashed.

Did you watch the intermediate sprint? Rojas deserved his relagation, not sure about Boonen.

Mike
post #35 of 87
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Yea, and how resilient they are. I'm still recovering from my crash a week and a half ago. While I was able to ride 2 miles home, there's no way I could've done what most of those guys did. Contrador got up twice, and Boonen barely finished under the time limit because of how hard he crashed.

Did you watch the intermediate sprint? Rojas deserved his relagation, not sure about Boonen.

Mike


Hope you are okay....back on the bent yet?

 

You missed a dandy of a day on Trail Ridgeeek.gif for BTC!!  I made it over and damn near crashed on the descent from shivering so hard from being so wet and not being able to see a thing.  Great day on the bikecool.gif

 

Tour is looking pretty interesting...

post #36 of 87
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Hi Dave. Jim had a grand tme on that ride over TR. He said it was brutal waiting at aid 2 waiting for them to open the road, and riding into the wind-driver ice pellets was tough. Glad to hear you made it, I'm envious as I've always wanted to ride TR. But I was glad I didn't get to enjoy the sufferfest of the weather on this years ride; my experience descending Cottonwood Pass was enough for me (hypothermia and no brakes in a torrential downpour).

Yep, back on the bent. I was just hitting my stride in training (what for, I don't know) when I crashed almost two weeks ago. I dislocated my shoulder (3rd time) and got some nasty road rash that laid me up for a week, but got back on the bike sunday. Given how minor my fall was and how much it affected my desire and ability to ride, it's absolutely amazing to me to see these pro riders get back on their bikes and race to rejoin a Peloton travel ing at 20+ mph. Even on my aero bent, sustaining 20+ mph is at my max ability, and to think of riding at 30mph to catch the Peloton seems almost inconceivable to me. Guess that's the difference between pro and recreational riders.

How's the rest of your season going?

Mike
post #37 of 87

I'm in my usual post BTC lull.....I have only ridden a few times since the tour finished.  I've lost all the CTL I gained doing the tour and then somefrown.gif.  My power is about 10% lower right now than it was at this point last year and my hours and mileage are down as well.  

 

I'm doing the JDRF Ride for the cure in Death Valley in October so that's all I really have to train for anyway so I'm just enjoying some time with the kids and trying to stay in reasonable shape for next ski season which I'll start getting amped about by the middle of August and staring at the nightly temp forecasts for Copper at the beginning of Septeek.gif  

post #38 of 87
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Hi Dave. Jim had a grand tme on that ride over TR. He said it was brutal waiting at aid 2 waiting for them to open the road, and riding into the wind-driver ice pellets was tough. Glad to hear you made it, I'm envious as I've always wanted to ride TR. But I was glad I didn't get to enjoy the sufferfest of the weather on this years ride; my experience descending Cottonwood Pass was enough for me (hypothermia and no brakes in a torrential downpour).

Yep, back on the bent. I was just hitting my stride in training (what for, I don't know) when I crashed almost two weeks ago. I dislocated my shoulder (3rd time) and got some nasty road rash that laid me up for a week, but got back on the bike sunday. Given how minor my fall was and how much it affected my desire and ability to ride, it's absolutely amazing to me to see these pro riders get back on their bikes and race to rejoin a Peloton travel ing at 20+ mph. Even on my aero bent, sustaining 20+ mph is at my max ability, and to think of riding at 30mph to catch the Peloton seems almost inconceivable to me. Guess that's the difference between pro and recreational riders.

How's the rest of your season going?

Mike



today's stage was pretty flat alot flatter than anywhere I have ever lived.

 

They average 23.9 mph for 135mp for about 5'40 minutes of riding. In a pack that really doesnt sound that hard. I can easily maintain 24 ish mph on flattish terrain for 20-30 miles by myself. 30 mph is doable for a couple miles. I think its more absurd just how fast these guys can climb and their average speed for mountain stages.

 

As I have been saying to every roadie on this board MTBing will make you faster on the road than road biking alone could ever make you. you also might stop crashing on the road. (I have never crashed on the road the thought of crashing on the road scares the hell out of me!)

 

 

post #39 of 87
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Yea, there's no doubt that the Peloton will suck folk along. That being said, riding a diamond frame bike at speeds above 20 mph is tough. My average speeds are above 20 mph for 60 miles (relatively flat, about 2k of climbing) and above 22mph for 30 miles (again flat about 1300 vert). And I've had maybe 3 riders on a diamond frame who've been able to stay with me. On the flats, I'm riding in the upper 20s, on the slight declines, I'm in the 30-50 mph range, and even on grades to 3 percent I don't get passed. Where I do get passed is on steeper climbs, and that's largely because of my weight. While I've dropped 60 pounds, I still am working on the last 20.

I don't think mb would do anything to stop my crashes. I've had 3 significant ones. The first in a high speed descent in the rain following a car too closely so that I didn't have time to avoid debris in the road that destroyed my front tire and rim, the second on a high speed (47 mph when I hit the deck) descent when a traffic light changed right in front of me and I accidently locked the brake blowing the tire, and the last one taking a cright hand corner where I hit the whit tape going 30. I don't think mbing would do anything to avoid those issues.

Iback to the tour, terrible day again for many generally and radio shack specifically. Horner got really screwed up and they had to take Wiggins to the hospital in an ambulance. Maybe they need to be more careful in selecting the stages. Running the race early on narrow roads with lots of wind forces everybody up front where they touch wheels and have massive crashes.

Mike
post #40 of 87

Without the Prologue, it has ended up with 30 riders within striking distance of the maillot jaune.  Yes there has been some carnage, but I think it is one of the most interesting starts to the TDF in a long time.  Amazing that Horner and Boonen stayed on their bikes as long as they did, but the the concussions they suffered, they were not only a danger to themselves, but also to the other riders.  Contador will be heavily marked by Leopard Trek and BMC, so I think it will be very hard for him to recover the 1:42 defecit unless some misfortune happens to Schleck (Andy) or Evans.

 

Watching the TDF here is a marathon, with 3 weeks of 2:00 am finishes.

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Without the Prologue, it has ended up with 30 riders within striking distance of the maillot jaune.  Yes there has been some carnage, but I think it is one of the most interesting starts to the TDF in a long time.  Amazing that Horner and Boonen stayed on their bikes as long as they did, but the the concussions they suffered, they were not only a danger to themselves, but also to the other riders.  Contador will be heavily marked by Leopard Trek and BMC, so I think it will be very hard for him to recover the 1:42 defecit unless some misfortune happens to Schleck (Andy) or Evans.

 

Watching the TDF here is a marathon, with 3 weeks of 2:00 am finishes.



Just DVR the afternoon 2 hour show and watch at your leisure....

 

post #42 of 87

Carnage all day long and now we have Voeckler in the maillot jaune. I hope he holds it for a while. Heck, I'd like to see him win the thing.

post #43 of 87
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Just DVR the afternoon 2 hour show and watch at your leisure....

 



 

Not the same as watching it live.

 

And last night, what a stage.  Carnage everywhere. Feel sorriest  for Juan Antonio Flecha and Johnny Hoogerland who were clipped by a TV car  whilst in the breakaway group causing them both to crash heavily (Hoogerland thrown into a barbed wire fence).

 

I don't think that Rabobank or Europcar will have much support from the rest of the teams though as Sanchez's stage win and Voeckler's yellow jersey were gained while the peleton enforced a go-slow to allow the riders from the major crash to regroup and catch up.

post #44 of 87
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I don't think that Rabobank or Europcar will have much support from the rest of the teams though as Sanchez's stage win and Voeckler's yellow jersey were gained while the peleton enforced a go-slow to allow the riders from the major crash to regroup and catch up.

 

They were already away, they were well within their rights to keep going.

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Carnage all day long and now we have Voeckler in the maillot jaune. I hope he holds it for a while. Heck, I'd like to see him win the thing.



A Frenchman win the TDF.....don't be ridiculous

 

post #46 of 87



 

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Not the same as watching it live.

 


Not the same?

 

You're right, it's  much better.  I can waste far less of my time and get in some riding!

I'm pretty sure it ends the same way too......

post #47 of 87
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A Frenchman win the TDF.....don't be ridiculous

 


Seriously... as if that can ever happen. I like him though. He suffers like a dog and he doesn't know the meaning of the word quit.

post #48 of 87

Well, Voeckler hasn't quit yet.

 

More importantly, Tommy D now in 9th. Hell yeah! A few years late to the show, but at least he's trying to make up for it.

post #49 of 87

Great stage last night.  2 x Schlecks look dangerous (Frank more so than Andy).  Maybe Frank to wear yellow in Paris?  Evans looked comfortable and only lost time the Frank Schleck. Basso a dark horse?  And Contador needs a steak or two.  If Contador can't get some time back tomorrow, I'd say his podium hopes are over (too many early crashes and still recovering from the Giro).

post #50 of 87

If this is how effective doping controls affect the tour...count me as one who will quit watching....this tour is a total snoozefest so far.  The only exciting thing that has happened so far is watching the crashes.

post #51 of 87
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If this is how effective doping controls affect the tour...count me as one who will quit watching....this tour is a total snoozefest so far.  The only exciting thing that has happened so far is watching the crashes.


I was kinda on the edge of my seat today. Mostly pulling for Tommy D, but also loving that Tom V is still in the mix. He just won't quit.

post #52 of 87
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If this is how effective doping controls affect the tour...count me as one who will quit watching....this tour is a total snoozefest so far.  The only exciting thing that has happened so far is watching the crashes.


 

watch MTBing although I bet the Czech win again.

 

today's stage was cool to watch.

 

post #53 of 87

Anyone have a riders' eye view video link of the intermediate sprints?   Particularly interested in Stage 12.

post #54 of 87

Getting interesting.  Are the Schlecks gone?

post #55 of 87
No I don't think they're done but Cadel is in the drivers seat as long as he can cover Contador's attacks in the alps. Evans is very good in the TT and just needs to hold onto a lead into the TT.

Mike
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Getting interesting.  Are the Schlecks gone?

post #56 of 87

if cadel wins, he is still going to be miserable.

post #57 of 87

“I’m pretty disappointed, but if this is what people want to see, a race decided on a downhill,” Andy Schleck said. “I don’t think that. A finish like this should not be allowed.”

 

Boo-hoo.

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if cadel wins, he is still going to be miserable.



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“I’m pretty disappointed, but if this is what people want to see, a race decided on a downhill,” Andy Schleck said. “I don’t think that. A finish like this should not be allowed.”

 

Boo-hoo.


 

He didn't.    Please tell me he didn't actually say that.     I really don't have a violin small enough for that sob song.

 


Tommy D. almost showed strong enough for Euros to notice.  icon14.gif

post #59 of 87

Yeah, he really did say that. That's cut and paste from Velonews. I haven't watched today's stage yet, but I hope they were merciless on the descent from Sestrierre.

 

 

 

(Go Tommy!)

post #60 of 87

Those final two decents were nuts; the first for its length and spped, over 50kms at 80-90kph and the last doen a goat track,  Contadore did his best to break away but got caught on the line.  Voclker lost time with two offs.

 

Huge stage tonight.

 

Evans miserable?  That's the happiest I've seen him in years.

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