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Replacement for my Katana's

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

Ok, long story that I will spare you all.  The gist of it is that I had to trade my beloved Katana's for a futon.  (Yeah, I got screwed hard on that one but it's just one of those things.)  So, being the gear hoar that I am I see this as an opportunity to try something else.  I need help deciding what that is.  So here are the criteria.

 

I want something very similar to a Katana!  But possibly a little more maneuverable but without losing all of the big mountain temperament.  My home hill has a lot of tight trees.  They need to be able to handle semi-wet snow, usually not more than than 10-12" deep, that has been cut up by mid morning.  Very rarely will we get more than 2 feet.  I really liked the flat camber/early rise of the Katana so that would be prefered.  They can't be total dogs on the soft groomers but I have multiple race stock skis for when it gets hard.  And lastly, I want something I can find used......just cuz. 

 

My specs:  5"11', 210 lb, very strong and aggressive.  Level 1 instructor but would go to Level III if there was any call for it at our hill (a small hill in north central WA.)  At present I'm contemplating the following:  Liberty Helix, Elan Olympus or 1010, 6th sense Huge and XXL....Any ideas would be appreciated. 

 

LT

post #2 of 12

Stick with volkl if that is what you like.   Can't go wrong.   I hear next year they are putting early rise on a bunch of ski's and some rocker in the tail.  So you may want to check out the 2012 line up.  

post #3 of 12
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Originally Posted by Lordthomas View Post

Ok, long story that I will spare you all.  The gist of it is that I had to trade my beloved Katana's for a futon.  (Yeah, I got screwed hard on that one but it's just one of those things.)  So, being the gear hoar that I am I see this as an opportunity to try something else.  I need help deciding what that is.  So here are the criteria.

 

I want something very similar to a Katana!  But possibly a little more maneuverable but without losing all of the big mountain temperament.  My home hill has a lot of tight trees.  They need to be able to handle semi-wet snow, usually not more than than 10-12" deep, that has been cut up by mid morning.  Very rarely will we get more than 2 feet.  I really liked the flat camber/early rise of the Katana so that would be prefered.  They can't be total dogs on the soft groomers but I have multiple race stock skis for when it gets hard.  And lastly, I want something I can find used......just cuz. 

 

My specs:  5"11', 210 lb, very strong and aggressive.  Level 1 instructor but would go to Level III if there was any call for it at our hill (a small hill in north central WA.)  At present I'm contemplating the following:  Liberty Helix, Elan Olympus or 1010, 6th sense Huge and XXL....Any ideas would be appreciated. 

 

LT



Rossi Sickle

Blizzard Cochise

Huge Rocker

New Katanas

 

 

post #4 of 12

Rossi SC Pro 112 (2010 or 11 only perhaps)

Dynastar Legend Pro 115

Dynastar Sixth Sense Huge

Volkl Shiro

Volkl Katana

post #5 of 12

Do your old Katanas have a rockered tail? Remember they changed in around 2008. 

post #6 of 12

ON3P Billy Goat 191cm

192 Bro from PM Gear

191 or 196 Lhasa Pow.

post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 

The old Katana's had the poly funnel tail.  Cracks and all, they were still great sticks.  Anybody have thoughts on Scott P4 or Liberty Helix?  I'm still not sure what differentiates a Dynastar 6th Sense Huge from a Pro Rider 115, from an XXL.  Anybody care to comment?

 

LT

post #8 of 12

I've owned your year Katana and use a 2011 version as my daily ski.  I've also owned and/or skied the Elan 1010 and the Olympus but not the Dynastars, Liberty's or Scotts.  If you liked you old Katanas my guess is you will really like the 2011 version which has the same dimensions and construction but with a very shallow, mild rocker continuous from tip to tail.  I think this is just a great, great ski and is more maneuverable than the model you gave up but with every bit the horsepower.  Next year they get 1 to 2 mm wider, a little bit stiffer and finally true to length.  This makes them about 2.5 cm longer across the board as up until 2012 they always measured about 1.5 cm less than their stated length plus the stated lengths have increased 1 cm for 2012.  There are still some 190's available for $569 on Alpinesporting goods.com (I'm not affiliated with them) if that's your prefered size.  The Elans are very, very similar to the Katanas but with a slightly softer tip and a bit less surfy; perhaps because the tail is traditional.  if you like one you will like the other.  For all the favorable press the Katana has received I still consider it to be underrated and just can't imagine you not liking it with your background.  Good luck.

post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 

Squaw Brat,

 

Thanks for the info.  I didn't try the new Katanas at demo days last year as we didn't end up with enough time.  I will this next season.  I've never been on any of the newer fat Dynastars but have some interest given all the good reviews they get.  The Pro Rider 115, or even 105 sounds interesting.  Anyone want to chime in with a comparison to the Katanas?  Helix?

post #10 of 12

If you are fast and aggressive skier then try Pro Rider's. But there is no replacement for Katana. Unfortunately

post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by Lordthomas View Post

The old Katana's had the poly funnel tail.  Cracks and all, they were still great sticks.  Anybody have thoughts on Scott P4 or Liberty Helix?  I'm still not sure what differentiates a Dynastar 6th Sense Huge from a Pro Rider 115, from an XXL.  Anybody care to comment?

 

LT



I have a friend who might be willing to get rid of his P4s if you're interested I'll ask him.  He describes them as sort of heavy/solid feeling, smooth and predictable but still a lot of fun- but they have been sitting since he's an Xploder guy through and through.  The helix is a superlight bamboo-core ski and I doubt you'd love it if the battleaxe katanas were your slice of pie.  I also have a friend who owns the Pro Riders and the tips are so soft he can elf shoe the shit out of them leaning forward and pull his tails right up off the ground just standing there.  I've heard good things and he enjoys them but says the tips are buttery as hell so not sure if that's your thing. 

 

Why not just get a newer Katana though?  They're not too hard to find if you're patient. 

post #12 of 12

We are looking for a Seat for our Katana If anyone has any web site for pleacement parts please let me know THANKS

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