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Intermediate skiier looking for a 'fun' all mountain twin tip

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

Hi,

 

After getting some help here looking for some skis last season I ended up just renting some Salomon X-Wing 8s for a week which were fine. Previously I was looking for just an all mountain ski (Around the Volkl AC20 range). Now I'm looking at getting something that I can ski all round the mountain but still be a fun and lively ski in the park (something that is light and pops easily). Most skiiing will be carving down groomers with a bit of off piste and park in Australia, NZ and the odd trip overseas to Canada. Height 5'11 155lbs

 

I have been looking at trusnow.com and evo.com as I need shipping to Australia just a couple of skis that I've looked at are;

 

K2 Silencers

http://www.trusnow.com/K2-Silencer-Skis.asp

Volkl Alley

http://www.trusnow.com/Volkl-Alley-Skis.asp

Salomon Threat

http://www.trusnow.com/Salomon-Threat-Skis.asp

K2 Extreme

http://www.trusnow.com/K2-Extreme-Skis.asp

 

 

I am open to any reccomendations as there are so many options and then there are bindings to worry about, thanks heaps

 

 

 

 

 

post #2 of 16

I cannot comment on the other three but if you went Volkl I would suggest to go with the Ledge or the Wall. The Alley is more of an entry level ski. Another good choice is a Fischer Addict. I had a pair of those and enjoyed them all mountain, also they are symmetrically shaped meaning same dimensions in the tip and tail which makes it easier to ride switch and ride in the park. Just a couple of suggestions for you. On a side note, I have found the Marker Griffon to be a fantastic binding for any ski of your choice.  Hope this helps.    Dave

post #3 of 16

Fischer Addict is great, I'd also check out the Line Chronic Cryptonite.  +1 for Marker Griffons too

post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 

With the Line Chronic Cryptonite (92mm waist) compared to say the Line Masterminds (85mm waist) and only previously skiing on roughly ~75mm waist will it be too much at 92mm for carving? I'll also have to check out the Fischer Addicts. Thanks heaps for the replies.

post #5 of 16
Am an advancing intermediate like yourself, only started demoing wider skis the past 2 seasons, jumping up from my 74 waist beginner skis. I found it an easy transition and actually very fun. I much prefer the wider skis and feel much more stable on them. I tried things in the range from 84-108mm and had fun on all. Even the 108 (Rossi S6) wasn't that hard to maneuver, so don't be afraid of the chronics, I think they'd be a good choice for you. If you want to go a little narrower and stay sub 90, but still have a versatile ride with pop in the park, I've heard and read great things about Armarda El Rey (I have a friend on these who lives in Aussie and he loves them), or maybe Scott punisher.
If in doubt, demo.
post #6 of 16

I've never heard anything bad about the K2 Extreme.  I ski the Icelantic Pilgrim as an everyday ski which might be something else to consider.

post #7 of 16

For a fun all mountain twin, check out the Dynastar Sixth Sense Distorter (87mm waist, 28 meter turn radius). I rented the 2010 Distorter last season and really enjoyed it ( I believe it may have been renamed the "Spin" for 2011). I'm an intermediate skier, about your height and weight. The Distorter in the 173cm length would make a great all mountain twin for you. The unique "Springblade" design that Dynastar uses in it's twin tips makes for a ski that is both light and lively while delivering a stable, forgiving ride. I notice your list has two K2 skis, the Silencer and Extreme. If you were to believe all the positive reviews of K2 skis that are on the internet, I would say just get yourself a set of K2's. I was ready to buy a pair myself until I demoed the Extreme. I did not like it at all. I actually felt guilty for not agreeing with all the hype. It comes down to personal preference, so the best thing to do it demo before you buy, if you can. Another ski I would recommend is the Atomic Panic. It is 87mm wide with an 18.9 mm radius, which makes it more eager to turn that the more easy-going Distorter. The Panic was overshadowed by it's bigger brother the 100 mm wide Atomic Access. The Panic did not fly off retailer's ski racks the way the Access did, but it has all the goodies that came on the Access. Features on the Panic include Tip Rocker, Adaptive Camber, and Step-Down Sidewall, which sounds like ski industry marketing hype until you take the Panic for a ride. For me, the Panic checks all the boxes as a fun all mountain twin. I picked up at pair for US $244.00 at REI. You should be able to find the Panic at a good discount. 

 

For bindings, go with whatever is on sale. The ski industry has advanced to the point where there is no bad binding. They all do what they are designed to do. My current favourite is the Tyrolia LD-12. It's not on the cutting edge of binding design, but it has some features that I like. The diagonal release on the heel piece is cool, the binding is light, and they can be had a good sale price. Again it comes down to personal preference, and as an intermediate skier you have a lot to choose from.

post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by stoj19 View Post

Most skiiing will be carving down groomers with a bit of off piste and park in Australia, NZ and the odd trip overseas to Canada.

 

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Originally Posted by gimmesnow View Post

For a fun all mountain twin, check out the Dynastar Sixth Sense Distorter (87mm waist, 28 meter turn radius). 


Depending on how the OP likes to ski, 28m is a pretty big sidecut for someone who says that most skiing will be carving on groomers.  Personally, if I was going to be on groomers most of the time, I'd prefer something a little turnier than that.

post #9 of 16
Thread Starter 

thanks so much for informative reply gimmesnow, it was really helpful! I was trying to find a store in America where I could purchase the Line Chronic or Line Chronic Cryptonites though of course they can't be posted internationally and didn't want to hassle/pay extra for a third party to purchase them for me.I think will check out the Atomic Panics or the Dynastar 6th sense Spin (Distorter turn radius is probably too wide like jaobrien6 said above) at levelninesports.com as they have great shipping rates to Australia and can mount my bindings for me. Somebody else from epicski recommended me to them last time. Will update soon on the next decision.

 

Edit: What about a pair of Coreupt skis? Just quickly looking at the Coreupt Candid Yard twin tips $229 (link below) compared to $399 for the Atomic 2012 Panics. I haven't heard of the brand before so I'm thinking of paying the extra.

 

http://www.levelninesports.com/Coreupt-2011-Candide-Yard-Twin-Tip-Parkall-Mountain-Skis


Edited by stoj19 - 6/25/11 at 8:14pm
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 

General concensus on Correupt Skis Yard or TJ Schiller compared to the Atomic Panics or Dynastar 6th Sense Spin? (see edit in above post)

 

 

post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by stoj19 View Post

General concensus on Correupt Skis Yard or TJ Schiller compared to the Atomic Panics or Dynastar 6th Sense Spin? (see edit in above post)

 

 



We carried the Coreupt twintips from the year before so they had different graphics. FWIW, they are pretty much the same same as the Dynastar, they are made by the same company so it is basically just a knockoff for less money. That is how it was explained by the Rep to me. If anyone has different info feel free to chime in.

 

post #12 of 16

 

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Originally Posted by Daveski7 View Post

We carried the Coreupt twintips from the year before so they had different graphics. FWIW, they are pretty much the same same as the Dynastar, they are made by the same company so it is basically just a knockoff for less money. That is how it was explained by the Rep to me. If anyone has different info feel free to chime in.

 


I had thought I'd read that the above was true for Coreupt's first year only, and that they're different designs now.  I could be wrong, though.

 

post #13 of 16

If you're thinking of going with a Sixth Sense model, then I'd throw the Superpipe into the mix.  At only 78 in the waist it is 'a lot' narrower than some of the other skis being discussed, but with the 15 m radius it will be a dynamic carver as well as fun everywhere else.  I ski the 09 Trouble Maker which is 81 in the waist, and if i didn't get such a great deal on it I would have gone with the Superpipe.  I wasn't able to track down the Spin in any local shops, but the 20+ radius turned me away from them a little.  I also looked at the Line Chronic Cryptonites on advice from the guy at the shop, but at the time the larger waist eliminated them from my choices.

 

All that being said, you won't really know unless you demo.  For me, the 115 Armada JJ's skied smaller than the 98 Rossi S3's so it all comes down to trying them if you can.

post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by jaobrien6 View Post

 


I had thought I'd read that the above was true for Coreupt's first year only, and that they're different designs now.  I could be wrong, though.

 


Jay, I am not sure about that either, we had the ones that almost looked like a hunting scene.  Brown ski, not very attractive but the price was fantastic.
 

 

post #15 of 16

I checked out the Coreupt Yard at Level Nine. Looks like it should be a fun ski. The dimensions of the 171 cm Yard (113-84-107) are similar to the 173 cm Sixth Sense Distorter (120-87-110). The Yard has a turn radius of 19 meters, the Distorter's TR is 20 meters (not 28 meters, as in my previous post). At that price I may pick up a pair myself!

post #16 of 16

You may want to have a look at Whitedot Freeride....the Preachers will not disappoint. The exotic review is here: http://www.exoticskis.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104

 

There is a 'Dots Dozen' members opportunity coming up soon which gets you access to a 'pro-deal' - there is some info on the website - www.whitedotfreeride.com.

 

Mark

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