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inner or outer leg vents? also, 7000mm waterproof?

post #1 of 10
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Hi there, I'm a new skiier looking to buy some pants. I see that most of the ones I'm finding have inside thigh mesh ventilation zips, but I found a pair for a pretty good price that has vents on the outside of the thighs. Are these significantly less effective? Which do you prefer? It just seems an odd place to me!

 

The other part of my question is pretty self explanatory I guess! They are rated at 7000mm waterproof (and 5000g breathable), do you think this is enough? I just want to be sure I'm not going to wind up with a wet ass sitting around on wet/icy chairlifts / slipping over! I don't foresee myself skiing in heavy thunderstorms :P

 

Thanks!

post #2 of 10

7,000 isnt too great, especially when NILS or NorthFace have lines with ratings upwards of 20,000

 

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Hi there, I'm a new skiier looking to buy some pants. I see that most of the ones I'm finding have inside thigh mesh ventilation zips, but I found a pair for a pretty good price that has vents on the outside of the thighs. Are these significantly less effective? Which do you prefer? It just seems an odd place to me!

 

The other part of my question is pretty self explanatory I guess! They are rated at 7000mm waterproof (and 5000g breathable), do you think this is enough? I just want to be sure I'm not going to wind up with a wet ass sitting around on wet/icy chairlifts / slipping over! I don't foresee myself skiing in heavy thunderstorms :P

 

Thanks!



 

post #3 of 10

I've had pants with both inner and outer vents and haven't noticed much difference.  I thought the ones with outer thigh vents were easier to zip open/closed, but that might have just been the pant's design.

 

Currently using REI Taku's that I found on sale.  Couldn't find a waterproofness rating on their website, but they worked well over the last two seasons in everything California threw at me.  Also used them on a half fog/half drizzle day on Mt Hood and they stayed dry.

post #4 of 10

7/5K is fine if you are a fair wether, front side skier. If you are going to be in all kinds of weather, especially changeable conditions pony up and buy something at least 15/15k but you can easily find reasonably priced stuff on closeout at many sites that is 20/20k (many incarnations like gore-tex, e-vent, dermizax EV, and others made by Patigonia, Cloudveil,marmot, mammut etc.). Its not just the H2O-proofing, its the breathabilty factor, a plastic bag is H2O-proof but will not wick and transport moisture away from skin and allow it to evaporate. 5K is not breatheable. Vents: I actually prefer inner thigh vents where you tend to generate more heat: think crotch......  Also, a quality pair of pants will have true h2O-proof zippers and seams.  

post #5 of 10

Lots of decent pants out there.  You don't say how much the pants you're looking into cost, but I'd say if they are over $50, you can find a better deal and higher quality.

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post #6 of 10

I have some Oakley pants with outside leg vents and they seem to work just fine... I actually prefer it as personally I'm not a big fan of the inside vents.

post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 

The pants are these

 

http://www.snowbirdinternational.com.au/online-shop?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=17&category_id=129

 

and I found someone selling them for (including shipping to me) NZD$70. (I don't want to pay an extravagant amount for gear) Google tells me that's about USD$55. This is actually the cheapest price I've seen for new pants - there isn't really a lot of selection here in NZ! A place in town is having a sale with things "up to 70% off" in a couple of weeks so I'll probably check that out, but the cheapest pants I've found there are nzd$180 full price, and only 5000/5000. In fact nearly all their gear was 5000/5000, it seems to be standard :/

 

Can anyone recommend some online places with cheap gear? Of course shipping will be an issue with anything outside NZ, but it's worth looking into.

 

Does brand matter a lot with ski pants? I know the ones I was looking at aren't a known brand or anything, I'm trying to somehow balance something which hopefully won't be too crappy against price. cheers for advice!

post #8 of 10

yep, inside vents = suck. they bunch up and crumple on some brands, and the flap is sometimes facing forward and catches powder on deep days. I don't evaluate based on hiking, just resort skiing with minor booters. go at least 15K if it's affordable to you.

post #9 of 10

Please keep in mind that you get what you pay for.  Cheapo pants will not be very water or windproof.  Hence you will get cold quickly and lift tickets are not cheap. I also agree about atleast 10-15,000 g, with vents you can always open them up if you get too warm. No preference for me inside or outside, I would choose the pant based on warmth and comfort.  Just my .02   

post #10 of 10
I stopped when I read "light weight technical fabrics" and "micro pores". I don't know about anyone else, but I need fairly heavy-gauge fabric in my ski pants; not the heaviest gore-tex or H2-No, but tough enough to be in contact with ski edges and gear and whatever without tearing. Also, these look insulated, and I prefer shells so I can wear them in all conditions with different weights of long underwear or fleece.

I've got the REI Taku pants too and love them. I like the outside vents. I get a bit of a chimney affect with mine, which is surprisingly refreshing. And if I fell, I'd rather have cold outer thighs than inner. Just sayin'.

Check out rei.com. Sierra Trading Post (if they ship to NZ) has good deals. Unfortunately, Moosejaw doesn't shop out of the US.
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