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Alternatives to Fire Arrow 80

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

Hello

 

I've looked at the Nordica Fire Arrow 80. It seems to be a ski just for my style.

I own Rossignol Scratch BC - and normally i'm used to ski on race carvers. So i do need a ski for the piste and still with fun factor :)

 

Maybe some could guide me in any directions. Is the Fire Arrow 80 a nice ski?

 

Facts:

Skied 17 years, mostly piste and a bit offpiste + some park.

Weight 75-80 kilos.

Height 189 cm.

 

Need a ski not only for the piste, but a ski that can handle it all. I do mostly run the piste, but do love to go offpiste and only a bit park.

My biggest problem with my Scratch is, that it is not that good on hard snow, ice that is. I have difficulties handle it like i could handle eg Fischer race carvers.

 

Let me know i you need anything.

post #2 of 9
Thread Starter 

I've looked at the Rossignol Bandit S86, can't see which would be the best.

No one have anything? :)

post #3 of 9

IMHo the FireArrow tries to do too many things and really doesn't do anyone very well. It is a system ski with a GS forebody, slalom rear, turned up tail with pricing for a 50 year old and graphics for a teenager. 

 

 

post #4 of 9
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

IMHo the FireArrow tries to do too many things and really doesn't do anyone very well. It is a system ski with a GS forebody, slalom rear, turned up tail with pricing for a 50 year old and graphics for a teenager. 

 

 


 

Great comment. I can see the pricetag is expensive, but i guess all is. Is the world not ready for a ski that fit all mountain? Eventhough i had a lot of skiweeks behind, i never been too much for buying equipments which is only used a couple of weeks per year. That means that i need a ski which can be skied well in all terrain. I can't go to my room and change if it is hard snow and back if is deep etc.

 

Well, i have an offpiste ski, but i enjoy the fun that twintip gives me, and the forgivness. So i think race carvers would be too much piste eventhough it is their i spend the most time?

 

Can u suggest any? What about Elans new model which gives both rocker and camber? I know it is not TT.

post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 

Actually now im confused. Should i really look for twintip or not. I've seen a lot of good impressions with the Salomon Enduro.

Maybe i don't use the twintip for what it is, park, bc, switch etc.

post #6 of 9

I've never had any issues with the Nordica Fire Arrow. The Rossi Scratch I have! Since the upgrade from Scratch to Fire Arrow my skiing has definitely improved. If you're still on the fence I would go with the ski that CAN do everything. 

post #7 of 9

Phil:

Could you clarify what you mean by GS forebody and slalom rear and why that's undesirable?  Also your concerns about the binding?

 

Despite your qualms about the FA80, do you think 156cm would be an adequate length for a 135# 5'8" instructor teaching beginner to intermediate skiers on mostly hard snow? And would $200 be a reasonable deal for a decent-condition 2011-12 demo model (Ti version) with  bindings? 

 

Thanks.
 

post #8 of 9
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Originally Posted by DonDeane View Post

Phil:

Could you clarify what you mean by GS forebody and slalom rear and why that's undesirable?  Also your concerns about the binding?

 

Despite your qualms about the FA80, do you think 156cm would be an adequate length for a 135# 5'8" instructor teaching beginner to intermediate skiers on mostly hard snow? And would $200 be a reasonable deal for a decent-condition 2011-12 demo model (Ti version) with  bindings? 

 

Thanks.
 

Personally, I like balance in a ski with sidecut. As far as the binding, I feel the XBS binding creates a slight disconnect with the ski. I don't think it is a bad ski I just think it tries to do too much. On that note, $200.00 is a good price for a good condition used pair but $399.00 for a NEW pair is a better deal (HINT of an upcoming Start Haus armada popcorn.gif

post #9 of 9

Phil's right. IMO, the graphics are fine, but there are skis that do what the Firearrow does, but better. (Plus the binding Is An Abomination. Heavy, sloppy, numb.) The Stockli Rotor 84 comes to mind. It'll carve like a race carver (yep, two sheets of titanal like most Stocklis), it's very balanced and smooth, it handles a decent amount of speed, but it excels in irregular and technical terrain. (BWPA, for instance, who's a L3 at Stowe, really likes them for bumps there. Which are not-to-mess-with-bumps.). And right now you can find last year's, or year before that, cheap. I have also heard a lot of good things about the Nordica Dead Money, in terms of a directional park twin that'll carve the whole mountain, including ice, and handle some speed. Also last season's can be had super cheap right now.

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