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When were going is during next years march break (Canadian- around 14-18 or 19 ) and would be skiing four days. I love glades, like moguls, and love expert skiing. \But I'm also going with my dad, who loves the perfect groomer and sticks to groomed blues/blacks.

 

I have narrowed down the list to three areas: Heavenly, Steamboat, and Big White

 

We want good snow and lots of terrain
 

So the question is.... Steamboat vs Big White vs Heavenly

 

Who's double diamonds are better? and cruisers?

post #2 of 20
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Originally Posted by Hockley Valley View Post

When were going is during next years march break (Canadian- around 14-18 or 19 ) and would be skiing four days. I love glades, like moguls, and love expert skiing. \But I'm also going with my dad, who loves the perfect groomer and sticks to groomed blues/blacks.

 

I have narrowed down the list to three areas: Heavenly, Steamboat, and Big White

 

We want good snow and lots of terrain
 

So the question is.... Steamboat vs Big White vs Heavenly

 

Who's double diamonds are better? and cruisers?




serious response

 

Go to Deer valley, your dad will love the open groomer skiing, and there is a decent bit of off piste that noone really skis there. Go take a trip to Alta one day as well.

 

never been to anything on your list so i cant really recommend one of the other, but Utah has the best conditions nearly anytime of the year.

post #3 of 20

Hello Hockley Valley

Regarding Big White: It's very much a family resort which is good and bad for you needs.

Pros -Lots of grooming, trees aren't bad off Falcon and Gem Lake chairs, some bumps, good accomodation and food, decent amount of snow, close to Kelowna airport (approx 1 hour)

Cons - We call it Big Whiteout because of the fog and except for the Cliff there is nothing really steep. Even then the Cliff is about a 3 minute run if you know how to ski. 

I haven't been to Heavenly nor Steamboat but have been to Utah several times and would agree with Bushwacker. Easy air access, lots of resorts to choose from, good quality snow (quantity and quality). Just don't try to find a liquor store.

Other BC/ Alberta resorts-

Silver Star @ Vernon - good runs but too low elevation

Fernie - maybe but not noted for groomers - most noted for off piste

Lake Louise - worth a look

Sunshine - flatish except for Delirium, visibility?, employee problems

Revy- also worth a look

Kicking Horse - see Fernie

Castle (my home hill so I'm biased) - Pros lots of trees, ultra steeps, good grooming on separate mountain for cruisers,  

Cons- no bumps due to wind, snow can be great or thin, isolated, three hour drive from Calgary, old chairlifts.

PM for more info on any of these resorts.

BTW We live just North of you in Wasaga Beach Spring and Fall  

 

post #4 of 20

Steamboat is not known for tons of double black diamonds, but has a great reputation for glade skiing, world class groomers, and some bump runs.  Mid-March is a nice time in Colorado for good snow surfaces and often plenty of sunshine.

Something to consider on a four day trip is how convenient is the gateway airport?  That (and good snow) makes Utah nice for shorter visits (I would suggest Alta).  If you can fly into small Hayden airport that is close to Steamboat, otherwise Steamboat and Heavenly are approx 2-3 hour drives from nearest major airport.  Don't know about Big White.  I always wanted to go to Lake Louise, it has super scenery if you want to stay in Canada.

post #5 of 20

I would say Heavenly with a huge caveat: I mean Tahoe.  Once you're there, no reason to limit yourself to just Heavenly.  It does have good glades and groomers to cruise on, some great expert bump runs (Gunbarrel is as good as its reputation), but if you come out to Tahoe definitely mix it up and check out Squaw, Alpine Meadows, and/or Kirkwood too.

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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

Go to Deer valley, your dad will love the open groomer skiing, and there is a decent bit of off piste that noone really skis there. Go take a trip to Alta one day as well.


Quoted for truth.  The off-piste at Deer Valley is tons of fun because no one goes there for it.

 

Alternate day trip would be Snowbird, where they have more groomers than Alta.  But if you're going to go to Alta, avoid the weekend -- being relatively cheap and near the city crowds it up.

 

Utah is the only place I'll fly to to ski.  So much great terrain within 45 minutes of the airport.

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Originally Posted by Hockley Valley View Post

When were going is during next years march break (Canadian- around 14-18 or 19 ) and would be skiing four days. I love glades, like moguls, and love expert skiing. \But I'm also going with my dad, who loves the perfect groomer and sticks to groomed blues/blacks.

 

I have narrowed down the list to three areas: Heavenly, Steamboat, and Big White

 

We want good snow and lots of terrain
 

So the question is.... Steamboat vs Big White vs Heavenly

 

Who's double diamonds are better? and cruisers?

 

I have been to all those areas.  My order of preference is

 

1) Big White (by a mile)

 

2) Heavenly

 

3) Steamboat

 

I choose Big White for it's Glades/Snow Ghosts, Perfect Terrain Park, and Powder.  I was last there in March 2005.

 

Heavenly may treat you to some excellent Moguls if that is what you are after, and the night life in South Lake Tahoe is fun with Casinos and all.  I was there in January 2010.

 

Steamboat is just flat and the lift network sucks.  Also it's famous for it's Aspen tree skiing and powder, but honestly alot of the Aspen groves are really tight and not that much fun to ski.  I was there in March of 2004 and it was kind of sloppy wet conditions, and I was there again for a week in February 2011.  We did have a single 8-10" powder day with bluebird skies and it was admittedly fun, but it's still too flat and crowded to really enjoy it.  Oh and with that powder it was completely tracked out before 11.
 

 

post #8 of 20

My Dad is gone, and we never got to ski together there.  After skiing Big White in good weather, wished I could have taken him there,he would have loved it.

 

It is a really good area if you miss the fog.  Very good for a mixed group skiing, but not a lot of killer steeps great trees though.  It does not get talked about a lot here but well worth skiing, and bigger than a lot of people think. 

post #9 of 20

Sun Peaks over Big White except Big White Out has better partying then SP. Sun Peaks has award winning grooming, long runs, very dry snow, and is the third largest ski resort in Canada in skiable area but not as busy as some other areas. SP has a compact ski thru village with tons of ski in ski out accomodation. It is a great high speed blue/black crusing mountain.

 

A couple of seasons ago the readership of Conde Nast Traveller magazine voted Sun Peaks the second best ski resort in Canada behind Whistler/Blackcomb and number 10 in North America.

 

Revelstoke has some great skiing but is not for intermediates, has a lot of low elevation terrain and imo the lifts are not well set up to ski the upper mountain.

 

Lake Louise has great terrain but can suffer from lack of snow and very cold temps.

 

Kicking Horse needs to put a mid terminal in their Gondola before I will ski there.

post #10 of 20
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Quoted for truth.  The off-piste at Deer Valley is tons of fun because no one goes there for it.

 

Alternate day trip would be Snowbird, where they have more groomers than Alta.  But if you're going to go to Alta, avoid the weekend -- being relatively cheap and near the city crowds it up.

 

Utah is the only place I'll fly to to ski.  So much great terrain within 45 minutes of the airport.


 

Snowbird has WAY less groomers than Alta and it sounds like snowbird would scare the crap out of his dad.

 

post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by Hockley Valley View Post

I have narrowed down the list to three areas: Heavenly, Steamboat, and Big White

 

OK, assumedly you have a good reason why you've narrowed it to these so - - -  . I haven't been to Big White, and as much as I love 'da Boat, 4 days on their groomers might leave your Dad bored, as it's not that big a hill, and if you take out the best parts (the glades, trees and off-piste), then there's not 4 days worth of groomers. Remember it's only 1.5 hours to Vail (or Beaver Creek) from there, so a day trip to try something different isn't much effort.

 

Heavenly is MUCH larger, and has a lot of groomers, reasonable trees and whatnot, as well as Squaw up the lake to get your freak on, so of the two I know and your requirements, Heavenly would seem to be the way to go.

post #12 of 20
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Ok from what i have heard, and from research that i have been doing, these are the possible resorts that my father and i could go to (we will go where ever the snow is):

 

Canada: Big white

 

Utah: Deer Valley (with a possible day trip to Alta)

 

Colorado: This is the one area where i haven't narrowed it down to one resort.

My choice is either steamboat or Vail

In your opinion which resort is overall better?

post #13 of 20

Hockley:

Suit yourself, but you have been warned more than once about the fog at Big White. You might get sunshine and blue sky while there, but choosing the foggiest mountain in Canada is more of a gamble than other places.

post #14 of 20

Have  to agree with Dano - spent 4 days at Big White this year and the fog was very bad.  Traversing across the top to get to the powder was a real Braille experience.  My wife hardly skied at all and basically had a terrible time.  The guys took off and had some very good powder in the trees but boy the fog was really bad - all 4 days.

post #15 of 20
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So if big white is so foggy, what other mountain should i choose in canada?

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So if big white is so foggy, what other mountain should i choose in canada?

See my earlier post: Sun Peaks, or Silver Star is another good choice
 

 

post #17 of 20

Hi again Hockley

I checked Westjet and they do fly to Kamloops with a stop in Calgary so I'm going to change my suggestion from Big White to Sun Peaks.

post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by Hockley Valley View Post

Ok from what i have heard, and from research that i have been doing, these are the possible resorts that my father and i could go to (we will go where ever the snow is):

 

Canada: Big white

 

Utah: Deer Valley (with a possible day trip to Alta)

 

Colorado: This is the one area where i haven't narrowed it down to one resort.

My choice is either steamboat or Vail

In your opinion which resort is overall better?


Utah - DV and Alta are good choices, but there's a lot more in Utah that could keep you and Dad happy. Snowbasin has plenty of groomer and great off-piste, the Canyons has enough terrain for everyone, some people like PMCR, Solitude and Brighton could keep you happy for a couple of days. The thing about Utah is there's enough areas that everyone can find something they like.

 

Regarding Co, as I mentioned above - Steamboat would be a challenge to keep someone busy for 4 days on groomers. Which is better between da boat and Flail? - 2 completely different areas. Completely. Plenty of reviews and comments to be found here. And why only Vail or S'boat? What about Beaver Creek, Keystone, Breck (yuck), Copper etc.all along the I-70 corridor. You could do a resort a day.

 

Think you need to step back, decide what you really want, and do some searching, but going back to your original query, why not just go to Whistler if you want lots of terrain and on-off piste and , and , and?

 

post #19 of 20
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Utah is the only place I'll fly to to ski. 


 

Wow,  you're going to miss out on a lot of good places!

 



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Originally Posted by Hockley Valley View Post

 

Colorado: This is the one area where i haven't narrowed it down to one resort.

My choice is either steamboat or Vail

In your opinion which resort is overall better?


Yes, why only those two?   Vail is bigger and has a little better terrain, but the crowd's turn me off.

 

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Wow,  you're going to miss out on a lot of good places!

 

It's pretty straightforward.  I'm fully paid up and have all my gear at Alpine Meadows, and can usually get there within four hours.  So my baseline is pretty high to start with.  The Utah resorts' snow and proximity to the airport sometimes clear that bar, because it takes about as long for me to get to Snowbird as it does to Alpine.  But it's hard to rationalize going to, say, Colorado.

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