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What is the lowest you ever shot with your handicap?

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 

I've been as low as a 9 but that required being unemployed for the summer and playing 5 times a week. Very expensive and I don't recommend it. My low round was a 69 (par 72) with a 12 handicap for a net 57. What made it a really exciting round was that I was 5 over when I got to the 6th tee! Think the Reverend in Caddy Shack.


Edited by wooley12 - 5/22/11 at 5:35pm
post #2 of 24

Don't recall exactly but I'd guess 4 or 5 under with handicap.

post #3 of 24

Lowest I was a 16 and at the time I shot a 78..the first of 2 times I shot under 80.

post #4 of 24

I've been a 1 or 2 handicap in the past when I had more time... but was a 5 or 6 handicap and shot a 68 ... for a net score of 62.

post #5 of 24

lowest net score = 61  - 76 with a 15 handicap. It was a pretty boring round. Unspectacular drives, unspectacular GIRs, unspectacular 2 putts and 4 mistakes. Even winning $6 was boring.

 

Aside from this post, I don't ever think about shooting net scores.

post #6 of 24

A 78 gross once; long ago, on a par 72 course.  Everything just kind of worked. 

 

I would like to do this again, please.


Edited by Stranger - 5/24/11 at 8:12am
post #7 of 24

I think all golfers can remember that one or two magic days when it all just worked. My personal experience was a 77 (14 handicap), and, it was on a testing course from blue tees.

 

Having said the above, and mini-rant on:

 

I have very little faith in the accuracy of handicap system as it is manipulated by the individual golfer. I am so sick of playing events and having net 60's win. Presently, I play in a league round-robin format with 9 other golfers. The person leading my group, after 6 rounds, has beat his handicap on all 6 weeks (9 hole match) and his average score would lower his handicap by 3 shots for 9 nine holes. He swears it's an honest handicap, and, that the computerized handicap system will catch up to him shortly. I'm not going to hold my breath  waiting for that.

 

It's sad in a game that prides adherence to rules, some just want to win and manage their personal handicap to ensure that result. It's funny how some people love to wager based on their inflated handicap, while others never will bet based on handicap because their ego drives them to an artificially low number.

 

A favorite story is last year my brother invited me to play in a member-guest tournament at his club and it involved a "calcutta" where the teams were auctioned off prior to the start of the event. Full handicap allowed. Minimum bid of $200 per team. One team was bid up to $1600 and they won easily....hmmm  what did everyone else know that I didn't? During the 3 rounds of the event, each of the other teams I played with had a guest that played 5 to 6 shots better than his handicap. We finished near the bottom.

 

Some of the same people probably trash Lance for doping.

 

mini rant over.

 

 

post #8 of 24

Agreed that the handicap system is flawed... as a low-handicapper, I have almost no chance of competing in net scoring events.  I score consistently in the 70's ... under 75 is a good day, 76 or 77 is average, and 79 means I had some trouble.  But on a great day I might shoot an even par 72 for a net score of 67... which will never win.  It's so much easier for a 15 handicap to break 80 than it is for a 5 handicap to break 70.  Every stroke under 75 is worth 2 strokes under 85 in terms of difficulty ... if that makes sense.

post #9 of 24

I've had a 9-14 handicap for 40 years. I agree most handicaps are way off because most folks do not even know how to keep score when they try to keep score right. Most have never hears of Equitable Stroke Control (See USGA Handicap Manual) Two things really will cause a person to understate their handicap. If you are playing in a match and your opponent concedes a putt to you you are supposed to record "your most likely score". So if a guy makes a 20 foot putt to win the hole and tells you to pick up your 18 footer- that does not mean you record the stroke as if you made the putt. Your "most likely" score from 18 feet is at least a two putt. The next part of ESC is a 9 handicap can not record higher than a double bogey, from 10-19 a seven, from 20-29 an 8. So, for the average good golfer with a handicap in the teens there will never be a little snowman (8) on his card because it's always adjusted down to a 7. In my experience, if you apply proper ESC, slope, course ratings, plus follow the same rules to record the handicap rounds and record the low score round it is almost impossible to shoot below par NET.

post #10 of 24
Thread Starter 

Thread drift to "Are handicaps fair". IMO, the handicap system works very well in match play. Not so in stroke play for all the reasons mentioned above plus the fact that bad hole scores are cumulative. I'm in a mixed league called "The Hackers" and it's aptly named. 9 hole handicaps ranging from 6 (me and one other) to 22. League uses a stroke with handicap format and the 2 lowest are always in contention at the end. I've been in a lot of leagues that used match play and as one of the lower handicappers, I always got my butt kicked.

 

My favorite golf pastime is to show up as a single (almost always get right out) and play a match by asking "What do you usually shoot"? The handicap is the differential between us. Almost always isn't decided until the last 2 holes. As it should be.

post #11 of 24
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Originally Posted by steveturner View Post

In my experience, if you apply proper ESC, slope, course ratings, plus follow the same rules to record the handicap rounds and record the low score round it is almost impossible to shoot below par NET.


 

Steve,

I disagree with this conclusion, and, the mathematics require being at or below par (net) about 25% of the time.  Simplistically, your handicap is based on an average of your best 10 of 20 scores.  Let's assume that your best scores average is 80 for those 10 rounds and both course rating and course par is 70 to make it simple. Your handicap would be 10. Your very best scores have to be lower than 80 just due to statistical variation, resulting in net scores below course rating . Handicap index is a complex calculation, as you described, and misunderstood by most. Handicap index is much more an indicator of what you are capable of scoring on a good day. In the above example, a golfer could honestly state " I usually shoot about 83 and my handicap is a 10".

 

Thread drift in an Epic thread.......no way that ever happens.

 

But I don't think it's thread drift to open the issue of legit handicap in any discussion of net score. My problem is not with the USGA system, only certain people to manipulate it for personal gain. Being 10 shots better than the average of your best 10 of 20 is a statistical outlaying point of data.

 

One of the antidotal Bernie Madoff stories is that he always posted the exact same number on his golf scores.

 


Edited by Living Proof - 5/25/11 at 6:15am
post #12 of 24

Handicaps are far too easily manipulated.  I know of a guy who claims to be a 12 and then shot a 69.  What a sandbagger!

post #13 of 24
Thread Starter 

Moi ? smile.gif  Let me tell the whole story. Playing with my dad and 2 brothers. Shotgun start. We teed off on two, a par 5. Hole #3 is a par 3. I'm 5 over coming to the 6th (our 5th). Ranger comes up and tell us we're slow as we are 2 shots behind the group ahead. Brilliant Sherlock! We started 2 shots back. I get pissed and rip off a career drive. Approach shot to 5 feet. Birdie #1. The rest of the round went the same. Hitting 30 yds. further off the tee. The only put longer than 10' was a 50 footer for eagle on a par 5 I never reached in 2 before or since. Sunk a shot from the bunker on a par 3 that I short sided myself on and so deep I could only see the top of the flag. On my last hole, I had a 15 foot straight put for a 69 and the only thought running through my head was "If I sink this, what will I tell my friends?" I was playing with a used set of irons that I had bought 15 years earlier and had been replacing the shafts on by one as the rusted out and broke. When friends would ask me  when was I going to get new clubs, my response always was " When I break 70".  I didn't want to play for a month after that round and when I did go back to that same course, I shot 113!! I love this game!!

post #14 of 24

Umm... if that were the case it would be nearly impossible for a golfer to improve and therefore lower his/her handicap.  The only way your index can move down significantly (if you're a consistent golfer without a ridiculous scoring range) is if you have a sub par net round.
 

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Originally Posted by steveturner View Post

In my experience, if you apply proper ESC, slope, course ratings, plus follow the same rules to record the handicap rounds and record the low score round it is almost impossible to shoot below par NET.



 

post #15 of 24


From 69 to 113?  I thought that maybe you were just a good 6 playing at a 12, but I honestly don't know how it's possible to shoot a 69 and then a 113 on the same course.  Did you forget to count your putts the first time?
 

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Originally Posted by wooley12 View Post

Moi ? smile.gif  Let me tell the whole story. Playing with my dad and 2 brothers. Shotgun start. We teed off on two, a par 5. Hole #3 is a par 3. I'm 5 over coming to the 6th (our 5th). Ranger comes up and tell us we're slow as we are 2 shots behind the group ahead. Brilliant Sherlock! We started 2 shots back. I get pissed and rip off a career drive. Approach shot to 5 feet. Birdie #1. The rest of the round went the same. Hitting 30 yds. further off the tee. The only put longer than 10' was a 50 footer for eagle on a par 5 I never reached in 2 before or since. Sunk a shot from the bunker on a par 3 that I short sided myself on and so deep I could only see the top of the flag. On my last hole, I had a 15 foot straight put for a 69 and the only thought running through my head was "If I sink this, what will I tell my friends?" I was playing with a used set of irons that I had bought 15 years earlier and had been replacing the shafts on by one as the rusted out and broke. When friends would ask me  when was I going to get new clubs, my response always was " When I break 70".  I didn't want to play for a month after that round and when I did go back to that same course, I shot 113!! I love this game!!



 

post #16 of 24

I agree... that sounds, well, impossible.  Anyone who can break 80 much less 70 should be able to shoot better than 113 using only a 7 iron and a putter.
 

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Originally Posted by MiRider View Post


From 69 to 113?  I thougth that maybe you were just a good 6 playing at a 12, but I honestly don't know how it's possible to shoot a 69 and then a 113 on the same course.  Did you forget to count your putts the first time?
 

 



 

post #17 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MiRider View Post


From 69 to 113?  I thought that maybe you were just a good 6 playing at a 12, but I honestly don't know how it's possible to shoot a 69 and then a 113 on the same course.  Did you forget to count your putts the first time?
 



 

 

The 69 was, well, completely surreal. The 113 was hung over after the all night bachelor party and still knocking them down. Plus a lot of bad lies. I ALWAYS count ALL my strokes and always play it as it lies.
 

 

post #18 of 24

Yes, yes... winter rules...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCvgMNnM3OA

post #19 of 24

Wow.  That's the equivalent of straight-lining chutes and hucking cliffs one day and then not being able to make it down a green groomer without falling the next...

post #20 of 24
Thread Starter 

What would you call shooting 38 on the front and 31 on the back?

post #21 of 24

In and out under 40...
 

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What would you call shooting 38 on the front and 31 on the back?



 

post #22 of 24

Not sure what my lowest was with HC.  Lowest I shot gross was 71 twice.  Once with a bogey on 18 the other time with a birdie on 18.  Now that I'm in my mid 60s I'm looking forward to the day I first shoot my age!

post #23 of 24

I pared three holes in a row in one round onceredface.gif  Mostly bogeys with an occasional par and a very rare birdie here and there is how I rollth_dunno-1[1].gif  But, I haven't played often enough to try to track a handicap since high school..

post #24 of 24

LP, you are correct - poor choice of words on my part - I stand corrected.

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