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Skiing approved in the PASEA at Mt Spokane

post #1 of 26
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Today the State Parks board approved Mt Spokane's expansion request to add a 7 or 8 named runs and a new lift to the backside (aka PASEA) in Mt Spokane State Park. This has been about 20 years in the making, finally approved!

 

 

They selected from 4 different options for the PASEA area moving forward. Ranging from no recreation allowed at all, to the approved option:

 

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Option 3: Land Classification: Recreation and Resource Recreation with Conditional Use of Alpine Skiing in a Portion of the PASEA with the Remainder Designated Natural Forest Area The designation of multiple land classifications would allow the greatest expansion of alpine skiing and therefore the most environmental impact. This option includes three land classifications within the PASEA:

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The Recreation classification in the 279 acre portion of developed ski area with one lift and seven runs; The Resource Recreation classification in an area which buffers the developed ski area; and The Natural Forest Area classification in the area below the Chair 4 Road.

Within the 279-acre area designated as Recreation, the ski lift and runs would be permitted and managed in the same manner as the area designated as Recreation on the front side of the mountain. More vegetation could be cleared within the area designated Recreation, opening up greater access to all areas within the 279 acres of developed ski area. The area designated as Resource Recreation would offer a higher level of resource conservation due to the forest management practices required in the Resource Recreation classification. The area below the Chair 4 Road is not being considered by MS 2000 or staff for alpine skiing due to its habitat and terrain and would be classified as Natural Forest Area.

 

I've heard rumors glading will begin for the 11/12 season and the new lift and runs will go in starting in 2012/13. 

 

Hope it's not too busy out there next year, when everyone checks it out:

 

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Hanging out in the southern side of the PASEA, looking towards Mt Kit Carson on January 30, 2011

post #2 of 26

Nice!  Going home will be funner than ever!

post #3 of 26
Thread Starter 

Expansion area:

 

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post #4 of 26

Is that going to be a Northwest exposure?  Is the fire spotter tower still on top? 

 

A really good neighborhood mountain, and getting better with that expansion. 

post #5 of 26
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Fire spotter tower was taken down in 2001.

 

They since moved it to Quartz Mountain (2 mile walk from XC Sno-Park) that you can sleep overnight in. I've got a couple weekends this summer booked!

post #6 of 26
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Originally Posted by Stranger View Post

Is that going to be a Northwest exposure?  Is the fire spotter tower still on top? 

 

A really good neighborhood mountain, and getting better with that expansion. 


More like between W and NW.  That angled white line labeled "PASEA Boundary" in the top half of the image in spknmike's post runs pretty much due north.  Close enough that I'd bet it actually is due north.

 

post #7 of 26

I was gazing down there just this past winter thinking how rad that would be if it opened.  Didn't think since that mountain hasn't changed for the entire duration I've known how to ski, that it probably never will.

 

Cool.

post #8 of 26

This new option needs to be looked at more carefully. When they clear it and add lifts then they will create more blue terrain which Mt spokane has plenty of. Leaving it without the lift and glading it better near the return trail would enhance this awesome tree skiing area. It has a northern aspect that keeps this side in the shade until late and leaving the trees would keep this the longest stash laden places to ski. Right now it's patrolled lightly but offers  the best snow on the mountain on nearly every day. Adding a lift will kill the spirit of this gem in the woods. Glen Plake and Kimberly came and we skied the slack-country over and over again and they couldn't get enough. After he saw the bumps on Geronimo we couldn't resist the change in focus to the bumps where he is king.

post #9 of 26
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I'm split on the expansion..

 

I agree the skiing back there is a gem, and one of the main reasons I ski at Mt Spokane. (and the only way I'll come on a Saturday roflmao.gif)

 

However, looking at the other side of things, I think they need to expand to stay viable as other area resorts are doing.

 

As a compromise, although I don't think it's allowed in current plans: a little glading on the steeper side of the PASEA towards chair 4 would open some great tree skiing.

post #10 of 26

What Mt Spokane needs first and foremost is a new lodge. lodge 2 is crumbling and they patch it every off season. the building leaks and causes problems in the lower floors at times. It just old and it's time. Oh yeah, and get those awesome instructors out of the stinky tent .

post #11 of 26
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What Mt Spokane needs first and foremost is a new lodge. lodge 2 is crumbling and they patch it every off season. the building leaks and causes problems in the lower floors at times. It just old and it's time. Oh yeah, and get those awesome instructors out of the stinky tent .


Yep, but the Tents have such CHARM Garry.

 

post #12 of 26

I like tree skiing as much as the next Epic Member, but I think Mt. Spokane needs a chair back there.  That ski area hasn't changed for YEARS!  And before that, it was years and years since the last change.  They need something to draw in new people.  The only reason I ever go there now is an occasional nostalgia trip since I learned there.  I'd come more if they had a new chair for a change of scenery.  49, Schweitzer and Lookout got this figure out.  Silver are you listening???

 

At this point I wont even go to Silver if I have to pay for the ticket.

post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by FujativeOCR View Post

49, Schweitzer and Lookout got this figure out.  Silver are you listening???


I wouldn't expect any changes at Silver until they sell the resort, or figure out what's going with that. When they do.. I saw some models of the next chair out there, and it opens up a lot of great terrain.

 

Hopefully sooner rather than later, as Lookout's next chair will transform them into a serious contender to Silver. (some steeps?)

post #14 of 26

Wait Lookout is already planning a new char?  Oh Boy!  I haven't even been there with the 2 most recent ones!

 

And the last model I saw of Silvers future chair additions had them to skiers right of the Gondola, like going down the Powerline Ridge towards Elizabeth Park....I can't for the life of me figure out how they think there will be enough snow down there to warrant 2 chairs going in.  They can't even cover lower chair 4 for the first half of the season.

 

The most useful place Silver could put a chair would be (bad for core locals but good for business) SOB.  The also need one from bottom of 3 to top of 2, and perhaps something on the backside of wardner.  I realize this eats up alot of the sidecountry terrain there the powderhounds love, but all would make the resort feel much bigger.

post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by FujativeOCR View Post

Wait Lookout is already planning a new char?  Oh Boy!  I haven't even been there with the 2 most recent ones!

 

And the last model I saw of Silvers future chair additions had them to skiers right of the Gondola, like going down the Powerline Ridge towards Elizabeth Park....I can't for the life of me figure out how they think there will be enough snow down there to warrant 2 chairs going in.  They can't even cover lower chair 4 for the first half of the season.

 

The most useful place Silver could put a chair would be (bad for core locals but good for business) SOB.  The also need one from bottom of 3 to top of 2, and perhaps something on the backside of wardner.  I realize this eats up alot of the sidecountry terrain there the powderhounds love, but all would make the resort feel much bigger.


Lookout is planning like 7 new chairs (over 20 years). Not to hijack my own thread, but here's Lookout's expansion plans:

 

lo-2-9-11-exp-prop.jpg

 

L4 and L5 are next and (approved by the National forest?), hopefully in the next couple years. It will really open a ton of slackcountry.

 

I agree for Silver the most logical place to add a chair is SOB. But most of that land is National Forest and will require environmental studies and permitting. Land on the west side (back) of Wardner is BLM land all the way up to the hiking road. Same process. The "Alahambra" land is all owned by Silver, so they can pretty much build whenever they have the interest/funds there. The latest model I saw, and I can share if you want, shows only 1 "proposed" lift and 2 other "potential" lifts, one of those dropping all the way into town. The proposed lift only drops to 3600', so not much snowmaking would be needed, but yes, still lower than Ch 4 base.

 

Very long term plans for Silver show potential ski pods all over, including backside of Wardner, SOB, both sides of East Ridge and even off Silver Hill.

 

 

 

post #16 of 26

How much snow does Mount Spokane typically get? Don't they only get like 100 inches a year?

post #17 of 26

downtown spokane gets about a hundred inches

the mountain usually has about ten feet at the top and 7 on the bottom as an average, dumps of two to four feet are not rare

post #18 of 26
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Skied three 18 inch plus days last season at Mt Spokane.

post #19 of 26
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Skied three 18 inch plus days last season at Mt Spokane.


On an off year for bigger dumps too. Two and three years ago there were much more larger dumps including one that literally choked the mountain with snow and made you consider terrain to not lose momentum.

 

post #20 of 26

Hmm interesting on the snow amounts. We had my rehearsal dinner at a vineyard near Mt Spokane on the side opposite of the current ski area on June 10th. There was still some snow on the top. Plus a rainbow came out and it did not rain. It was pretty sweet to have a a mostly sunny sky, a snowcapped mountain, and a rainbow in view all at the same time for our rehearsal. Oh and the homemade italian was fantastic!

post #21 of 26

Drop in and I'll show you around. I'll be there daily when it opens near Thanksgiving . Check the ski school office or the lesson desk to find me anytime.

post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by wolfelot View Post

Hmm interesting on the snow amounts. We had my rehearsal dinner at a vineyard near Mt Spokane on the side opposite of the current ski area on June 10th. There was still some snow on the top. Plus a rainbow came out and it did not rain. It was pretty sweet to have a a mostly sunny sky, a snowcapped mountain, and a rainbow in view all at the same time for our rehearsal. Oh and the homemade italian was fantastic!


Glad the weather worked out for the dinner.

 

This was the summit on June 4th, few days before.. 

 

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Two Face was still skiable top to bottom.

 

 

post #23 of 26


Wow I like what lookout has in store.  I found a map on their own website that only had those L4 and L5 lifts, not the other...4?  I'm definately going there over Christmas Break.  I'll gladly donate some fundage for this project.

 

As for Silver, do you have any maps like this depicting their latest and long term plans?

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Originally Posted by spknmike View Post

Lookout is planning like 7 new chairs (over 20 years). Not to hijack my own thread, but here's Lookout's expansion plans:

 

lo-2-9-11-exp-prop.jpg

 

L4 and L5 are next and (approved by the National forest?), hopefully in the next couple years. It will really open a ton of slackcountry.

 

I agree for Silver the most logical place to add a chair is SOB. But most of that land is National Forest and will require environmental studies and permitting. Land on the west side (back) of Wardner is BLM land all the way up to the hiking road. Same process. The "Alahambra" land is all owned by Silver, so they can pretty much build whenever they have the interest/funds there. The latest model I saw, and I can share if you want, shows only 1 "proposed" lift and 2 other "potential" lifts, one of those dropping all the way into town. The proposed lift only drops to 3600', so not much snowmaking would be needed, but yes, still lower than Ch 4 base.

 

Very long term plans for Silver show potential ski pods all over, including backside of Wardner, SOB, both sides of East Ridge and even off Silver Hill.

 

 

 



 

post #24 of 26
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I'll PM them to you, since I can't vouch for how official the longer term plans are.

post #25 of 26

 

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Originally Posted by wolfelot View Post

How much snow does Mount Spokane typically get? Don't they only get like 100 inches a year?

 

Average snowfall at Mt Spokane is 300 inches

post #26 of 26

Are we going to have access to the wood when they clear?  And when do they plan on clearing it?

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