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Help, cold feet

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

So I got fitted with a boot that is way over my head – speed machine 130. now my toe are always cold, I don’t know if it is due to the liner too thin or poor circulation, I have try duck tape, boot glove and chemical boot warmer, so far chemical boot warmer yield the best result, but I would like a more permanent solution.


Thanks for all your help


post #2 of 10

Could be any of the reasons you have stated.  Do you have tight spots that could be cutting off your circulation?


My feet are sometimes cold and making sure not to put ski sock on until right before putting on a warm boot has helped me.  I also put spray antiperspirant on my feet to stop them from sweating.  If you put your socks on too soon your feet will sweat and will get cold.


If you can't pinpoint the cause then your best chance for a permanent solution is to get a warmer liner like an intuition, or invest in hotronics boot warmers.


Good luck,

post #3 of 10

My feet feel the same in 0 degrees as they do in 40 degrees ... maybe it just IS.


post #4 of 10

The below article is by Epic bootfitter expert Skiing-in-Jackson and is well worth the read as you may be over-tightening your boots, therefore reducing circulation.


I ski the Speedmachine 130, although I have an aftermarket Intuition liner, and find them to be very warm. Generally, I'm not subject to real cold feet. Never skied the stock liners as I had the aftermarketliners  and just put them into my new boots. Why do you think Speedmachine 130's  are over-your-head?. There is a boot flex adjustment so you could use the softer setting. You can ski very well by just standing centered in your boots and not trying to push against the front plastic, but, that may be a issue for a future post.

post #5 of 10

I have used the speed machine 130 for the last 5 seasons or so with an average of about 100 days/season.  They were great for about the first 30 days except for sometimes having cold feet  I bought some Hotronics, but the boot fitter installed them incorrectly and they were unimpressive.  After 30 days I developed a very bad 6th toe problem.  After several trips to the boot shop and some grinds and small punches, I wound up with the major punch that blew the side of the boot out and made them look like clown boots.  6th toe problem solved, Thank God!  The next fall I put an Intuition liner and reinstalled the Hotronics correctly.  Great fit... No pain and no more cold feet.  I've found that the Intuitions last for several seasons with out packing out too much.  The material flowed into the large punch and filled it in nicely.  The boots fit so well that I can ski with them virtually unbuckled and often do.  I think the stock liner in that boot was crap and would recommend replacing it.  I have loved this set-up, I ski a lot where it is cold and have had virtually no boot problems for the last several seasons.  I will be getting into a Fischer Vaccuum 130 this fall as I have skied the Nordicas into submission and all of my trainers are telling me that I overflex my boots.  Too Bad. I still love the speed machines.  They will be living at Snow King next year and will become my Patrolling boots

post #6 of 10

I had Dobermann 130's and thought the liner was garbage, that is cold and painful, with a faulty tongue fold. With a Nordica, you may want to start there (it's as if Nordica EXPECTS you to toss the liner), IF you keep the boots at all.

post #7 of 10

Sound like both Living Proof & TPJ hit the nail on the head regarding boot fit being the probable cause of the cold feet symptom.


A 130 flex boot needs to be snug fitting to be skied well. Being able to fit a chemical boot warmer pack indicates otherwise.

Resolving the boot fit issues will probably eliminate the cold feet (most of the time).



post #8 of 10

On the other hand, if a boot is not correct for the energy you are putting into it and your level of skiing, you may have a static skiing position with respect to your foot, being unable to flex the boot, and that static position could affect circulation. A 100 flex sounds more consistent with your needs as you describe them (over your head). Fit has to be dialed by a pro, no matter what else. Some boots are not as warm as others, due to liner make up.

post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all your reply, being a don't-know-anything-better consumer, I try to find the most reputable shop in Tahoe to fit my boot, so I am kind of disappointed for all these pain and suffering. next I will try antiperspirant on my foot, use a thin socks and use skiing-in-Jackson's way of getting into boots and see how it goes.  The last resolve would be intuition liner or maybe just dump the boot.

the reason I said this boot is over-my-head is I don't seem be able to flex the boot much ( already in lower flex setting), but again I really don't know when do I need to flex the boot, probably in bumps and the super pipe in Squaw ? Can Davluri elaborate more on the boot flex (Energy put into the boot... ).





post #10 of 10

You will have to flex the boot with every turn. The boot should feel responsive to your input, not rigid and static. The easier to turn your ski is, the softer your boot can be. The power you have should equal the power the boot has, basically.

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