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post #31 of 46

Would you post on who you are with some basic information like age and experience.  I hate to reinvent the wheel if you are experienced or ... stepping on my schlong thong so to speak.

 

Why are you doing this?   That said:

 

How is the Head Standard different enough from a Head 360 or Masters (you didn't mention Masters), but in about 1966 those were the line up.  The Standard was the first of it's kind.  The comps that you mention were the ones like Stranger had a pic of and those appear to be the Killy Head 800 metal/glass series of about 1968?  Really, I think Howard Head was the first giant step away from the wood laminates.

 

How about Hart, more glass in the Javelin?  Ford versus Chevy and I liked Head.  Hart must have done something spectacular right?

 

How about the "cracked" or sintered metal edge of the Elan in 1964/65 ish?

 

Plastic boots?  I do not remember what the first true plastic boot was but in 1967 Henke had a race .... was it a "Speed Fit" that was a combo of plastic and leather.

 

The Henke was also the first (that I remember), of the true custom fit boots and it worked well.  The race boot had an injection bladder that you stood still, slight forward and they pumped the expanding foam in.  Had to hold position for like 20 minutes while the foam set and don't dare move.  But it worked well.

 

The Marker toe and Look/Nevada toe were essentially the same during that period.  It was cheaper so I changed to the Look heel but kept the Marker toe but the "wings" on the toe were a tad longer.

 

Another salient or big item in the 1960's were the P-Tex versus Ko-Fix base materials.  I think the P-Tex was better and was marketed that you did not have to wax it.

 

There was a fish scale base back then that may have come from the cross country folks.  It allowed you to glide forward buy you could not slide back if you blew a herringbone.

 

How about the Olin (Winchester Arms Company), and the Honeycomb hollow core.

 

Who started using buckles?  My first boots were lace up.  Tyrolia?

 

The tapered pole shaft?  Barrecrafters?

 


Back to the bindings, do you realize that (perhaps you do), that in the Cubco days or (US Star cut rate Cubco), there was no protection against the side release.  In about 64 or so it was only protection against forward release (over the top) and the rate of spiral fractures would bear that out.

 

At what point did we loose the center groove on the base?  It was said to break suction and improve straight line tracking in a traverse so the ski did not wander?  roflmao.gif Does that sound familiar?


Edited by Yuki - 5/6/11 at 3:43pm
post #32 of 46

While we are asking, anybody know when the Head Deep Powder series started?  It was a Head Standard built like a buggy whip for flexibility, and normally skied in a longer length.  Believe that it was the 1st powder specific ski built, but do not remember when it started.  Most of the pairs I have ever seen were mounted with cable bindings, don't know if that was from time or touring capabilities, do not know when they came onto the market. 

 

Yuki, Henke brought the buckle boot to the market too.  "Are you still lacing while others are racing", was the original marketing slogan.  The were a very imaginative boot maker in their heyday, they just could not make the transition to plastics.

post #33 of 46

Bought  a pair of the Head Deep Powders @ a thrift store in 1974. 213cm and very soft painted with horizontal pink/green stripes but were black underneath,had N-17 Looks. Wish I still had them.

post #34 of 46

Stranger, thanks.  I think my first buckles were ... Dolomite and then I had the Henke.

 

That is a long way back.  The Henke were a great boot .. red plastic with leather ... grey I think.

 

I remember feeling fear with that foam expanding and it was a thermal process because they got warm and toasty too.  They had a bar on the wall for you to hold and "don't move" a muscle.

post #35 of 46
This thread would NEVER happen on TGR:-)
post #36 of 46
Thread Starter 

Ok, the Head Standard article is up!

 

Next I'm going to do the Look Nevada.

post #37 of 46


I did notice in your references for the nava binding an mention of the kneissl ski with rockered tip and tail...

 


 

 

post #38 of 46
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Originally Posted by Maury Markowitz View Post

Ok, the Head Standard article is up!

 

Next I'm going to do the Look Nevada.



Now we're talking!  biggrin.gif

 

45e6705b_Look+n17s+01[1].jpg

 

post #39 of 46
Thread Starter 

Ok, the Look Nevada article is up. I need images of the...

 

Original Nevada toe

Nevada II toe, preferably with the Grand Prix

N17

N77

and any one of the 1980's 99 series (did they keep the "N" in front?)

 

Rossi, if you took that image of the N17 right above this, I'd love to use it. However, the wikilawers complained last time because we were talking in PM's here and not in email! Do you mind PMing me your email so I can send the request there?

post #40 of 46
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Originally Posted by MastersRacer View Post

 


My mind is a sieve. I actually didn't use the M3 S as it wasn't beefy enough. I used the M4-15 instead.
 

 



I have a pair on display at the shop with the M4-15 toe, I will get a pic for you. 

post #41 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maury Markowitz View Post

Ok, the Look Nevada article is up. I need images of the...

 

Original Nevada toe

Nevada II toe, preferably with the Grand Prix

N17

N77

and any one of the 1980's 99 series (did they keep the "N" in front?)

 

Rossi, if you took that image of the N17 right above this, I'd love to use it. However, the wikilawers complained last time because we were talking in PM's here and not in email! Do you mind PMing me your email so I can send the request there?


I have a rare pair of junior Look RS turntables with a 2-6 DIN, they look just like dads. 

 

post #42 of 46
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Originally Posted by alexzn View Post

This thread would NEVER happen on TGR:-)


Probably not, but water skis with metal edges would be a HUGE hit, just don't tell anyone they are water skisdevil.gif

post #43 of 46

MM

 

Some of what you seek is here....

 

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/69485/look-nevada-grand-prix-fans 

 

 

 

post #44 of 46
Thread Starter 

Ok a bunch of new stuff is up... Look Nevada, Head Standard, cable binding, Spaceman binding and Nava System. I also re-wrote the ski binding article.

 

More to come... Marker, Rossi and Salomon, Look Integral and hopefully Burt (but maybe just "plate binding").

post #45 of 46



great,but I'm wiki ignorant.  could you post a link?

 

Royal

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maury Markowitz View Post

Ok a bunch of new stuff is up... Look Nevada, Head Standard, cable binding, Spaceman binding and Nava System. I also re-wrote the ski binding article.

 

More to come... Marker, Rossi and Salomon, Look Integral and hopefully Burt (but maybe just "plate binding").



 


Edited by royal - 5/17/11 at 6:49pm
post #46 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maury Markowitz View Post

Ok a bunch of new stuff is up... Look Nevada, Head Standard, cable binding, Spaceman binding and Nava System. I also re-wrote the ski binding article.

 

More to come... Marker, Rossi and Salomon, Look Integral and hopefully Burt (but maybe just "plate binding").


I hate spell check some times.

 

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