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Kendo vs Lords

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Hi, I'm 5'9 and 170. I've been skiing for about 15 years and always on race skis. I presently ski on a pair on RC4's.  This winter I attended a demo day and decided to try some fatter skis and seriously fell in love. It's like a different world skiing on those things..soo easy! I decided I had to get a pair. So basically I am looking for a wider ski (80-88mm) that I could use here on the east coast and for the occasional trip out west or to europe, as I already have a pair of fischer rc4's when i want to really fly.

 

The demo day I attended did not have all the ski manufacturers some I wanted to try were never available.  I tried the lords, enduros, sentinels, 6th sense, nomad ti and crimson.  I really found the enduros and lords easy to ski and definitely something I would like. Really surprised how well the lords went on the crud and how well they gripped on ice.  However reading all the review on here, i think the kendos are exactly what I am looking for. Good all mountain ski that can also slice and rip.  But I am a bit hesitant to just buy some skis online without having tried them before. So if anybody has skied on some enduros, lords and kendos any help or opinions are  welcome. How do the kendos compare to the lords, are they as easy to ski, do they have rocker as well?

post #2 of 12

I'm about your size (5' 10" / 165 pounds) and I just bought some Kendo 177's last weekend.  While I'm still anxious to try them out in some powder and didn't want to write a full review until I have, after one day at Squaw I absolutely love them.  Started out on some hard pack and groomed snow with a little ice here or there and they ripped right through it no problem just like a narrower ski.  Handled tighter turns on steep terrain and around trees great but were really the most fun when you just tilted them up on the edges and let them do the carving for you.  Not to say it's a mellow ski - it definitely appeals to my more aggressive side.  Very stable at faster speeds and over crud / bumps.  They were surprisingly playful as well - tried a few jumps and the landings were easy.

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Originally Posted by jaytierney View Post

I'm about your size (5' 10" / 165 pounds) and I just bought some Kendo 177's last weekend.  While I'm still anxious to try them out in some powder and didn't want to write a full review until I have, after one day at Squaw I absolutely love them.  Started out on some hard pack and groomed snow with a little ice here or there and they ripped right through it no problem just like a narrower ski.  Handled tighter turns on steep terrain and around trees great but were really the most fun when you just tilted them up on the edges and let them do the carving for you.  Not to say it's a mellow ski - it definitely appeals to my more aggressive side.  Very stable at faster speeds and over crud / bumps.  They were surprisingly playful as well - tried a few jumps and the landings were easy.

 

 

88mm is a narrow ski.
 

 

post #4 of 12

Fair enough - it's semantics at this point.  I said elsewhere that I bought the kendo's only because I had the intention of also buying something in the 100 - 110 mm range.  But for the purpose of my mini review above, I said "narrower skis," not narrow, and was not implying the kendo's were powder skis.
 

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88mm is a narrow ski.
 



 

post #5 of 12
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88mm is a narrow ski.
 

 


I guess it's all relative. For me 88 is really wide having never skied on anything over 72mm.
 

 

post #6 of 12
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Thanks for the info. Feeling better about getting these. Does anybody know if the Kendo will change for next season, because if it won't I will get this past season's model as the price is really worth it.

 

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Originally Posted by jaytierney View Post

I'm about your size (5' 10" / 165 pounds) and I just bought some Kendo 177's last weekend.  While I'm still anxious to try them out in some powder and didn't want to write a full review until I have, after one day at Squaw I absolutely love them.  Started out on some hard pack and groomed snow with a little ice here or there and they ripped right through it no problem just like a narrower ski.  Handled tighter turns on steep terrain and around trees great but were really the most fun when you just tilted them up on the edges and let them do the carving for you.  Not to say it's a mellow ski - it definitely appeals to my more aggressive side.  Very stable at faster speeds and over crud / bumps.  They were surprisingly playful as well - tried a few jumps and the landings were easy.



 

post #7 of 12

I had this concern as well but from what I could find it didn't sound like the 2012 kendo would have any significant changes.  And the price difference at this point is obviously quite a bit.

 

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/100329/2012-volkl-skis-preview

 

"The Kendo will remain conventionally cambered and will retain the current flex." - SierraJim
 

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Thanks for the info. Feeling better about getting these. Does anybody know if the Kendo will change for next season, because if it won't I will get this past season's model as the price is really worth it.

 



 

post #8 of 12
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I also wanted to try the Watea 84 but they were never available. Is the Watea anything similar to the Kendo?

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I change skis yearly and skied the Kendo 177 all season,  In fact loved it so much not going to move mine this season and keep them a second season.  That says a lot for me since I can change and do change skis frequently.  I am 6' 190lbs, spent 6 weeks in Breck this winter and it was my everyday go to ski, used my fats when we had pow and occasionally cruised with my Racetigers but far and away used the Kendo's the most,  As for 2012  NO CHANGE just graphics.  Good luck go for it you will love them!!!!

post #10 of 12
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Thanks that was very helpful.

 

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I change skis yearly and skied the Kendo 177 all season,  In fact loved it so much not going to move mine this season and keep them a second season.  That says a lot for me since I can change and do change skis frequently.  I am 6' 190lbs, spent 6 weeks in Breck this winter and it was my everyday go to ski, used my fats when we had pow and occasionally cruised with my Racetigers but far and away used the Kendo's the most,  As for 2012  NO CHANGE just graphics.  Good luck go for it you will love them!!!!



 

post #11 of 12

With its dimensions and stiffness(tips/tails = rocker-[lack of]) for parts of the EC it's just a huge compromise for 5'8", 180 guys like me, ..but I guess with so many variations on the human physique(sp?) = $$.

post #12 of 12

If you mostly skied on race skis for 15 years, Kendo for sure. Narrow Mantra, probably better fit of design with mission. Lord is gonna be softer, more forgiving, vaguer feeling, not a race guy's cuppa tea. Other candidate you might look at is Elan Apex. Very nice, well built ski that's bit smoother and damper than Kendo, actually lighter, similar build and design, decent precision. Or if you have the $$, a Kastle MX88 will be the closest feel to your current skis, super precise and smooth, still the best high 80's ski in the universe. 

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