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Hmmm. Maybe I should rephrase that.

How about, Help Prickly Find Bindings for His New Skis. Which he doesn't own yet. But whatever.

So, Prickly is about to pull the trigger on a pair of Watea 94s. Prickly will ski these about 80% lift-served/20% touring. That "lift-served" will be almost entirely offpiste, though that sadly doesn't mean all powder, far from it. They'll be used for everything from spring-morning, rock-hard ice to slush, and will get a lot of time in bumps too.

Prickly will buy the skis in Europe, as it's too much hassle, and potential expense (additional baggage, etc.) to haul them back from the US. But bindings will fit nicely in Prickly's checked baggage, so he will probably buy those in the States. Binding options (extra points for first person who says "get Dynafits", or "go tele"):

-Diamir Freeride Pro. Two guides Prickly catskied with in Canada used these as their go-to binding. One was a huckmeister, and he didn't seem bothered in the least skiing these. Prickly has heard mixed things about skiing these on hard snow. And he'd have to buy a binding crampon too (essential for Alps touring). He likes the weight though, and can get a pretty good deal in the US.
-Marker Baron. Prickly owns, Prickly loves, and Prickly's got the crampon already, which saves some cost. Dawg has these at a nice price. The downside, of course, is weight.
-Marker Tour F12. There's been a lot of talk about these, both good (skiability) and bad (durability). Prickly has three friends who own them, one of whom busted his pair on day one. It's worrisome. But this is kind of the Holy Grail of light-ish, tourable bindings. Just wonder. Same crampon as Baron, presumably. And Prickly may be able to get deal on them here in Italy.

So. Weigh in...


Also, tech types. Prickly wants to ski these with two sets of boots. One at 318 mm, one at 315. Is it better to mount binding based on longer sole?
 


Edited by prickly - 4/27/11 at 4:18am
post #2 of 20

Racedude is always a fan of the Duke/Baron set up-- trustworthy, durable, and not insanely priced.

 

Racedude would also mount them to the bigger boot, but Racedude honestly doesn't think the 3mm will make a big difference. 

post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 

Dude, why are you talking in 3rd person like that?

 

post #4 of 20

epic thinks Prickly should just get some Dukes or Barons.

post #5 of 20

 

Never mind...

 

I thought it was about something else...   wink.gif

 

 

As for the "third person", well.....  "George is getting upset" !


Edited by Rossi Smash - 4/27/11 at 6:36am
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Also, tech types. Prickly wants to ski these with two sets of boots. One at 318 mm, one at 315. Is it better to mount binding based on longer sole?
 



You're talking the difference of 1.5mm in mount location......   nonono2.gif

 

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You're talking the difference of 1.5mm in mount location......   nonono2.gif

 



Ah, but i'm sure the skis will ski completely differently....

 

post #9 of 20

I understand Salomon is coming out with a randonee set up that is similar to the Marker Duke. It will be lower to the ski and lighter, I hear. Actually it's out I believe.

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I understand Salomon is coming out with a randonee set up that is similar to the Marker Duke. It will be lower to the ski and lighter, I hear. Actually it's out I believe.


Prickly can't find. Man, this 3d-person thing is getting tedious.

 

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Hmmm. Maybe I should rephrase that. And I got grief for using "suck" in a title?

-Marker Baron. Prickly owns, Prickly loves, and Prickly's got the crampon already, which saves some cost. Dawg has these at a nice price. The downside, of course, is weight. No brainer given your list. Diamir's are last decade's design, nothing special. Or all that much lighter. And I'd run, not walk away from Tours until Marker gets the toes under control. Only other rational alternative if you're weight conscious are Plums or Dynafits. And those make no sense for 80% lift served. 


Also, tech types. Prickly wants to ski these with two sets of boots. One at 318 mm, one at 315. Is it better to mount binding based on longer sole? Not a tech type (eg, shop guy) but know that if you mount between these two, maximum adjustment possible. And I think that Barons can be very easily adjusted after mounting anyway. 

 

And why, if you're so weight conscious, are you setting all this up on a Watea 94? Lot of virtues, but light weight ain't one of them. Is it part of the compulsion to talk about yourself in the third person?  wink.gif
 



 

post #12 of 20
Thread Starter 
"Is it part of the compulsion to talk about yourself in the third person?"

Yeah, why does Prickly do that?
Edited by prickly - 4/28/11 at 1:25am
post #13 of 20
Thread Starter 
Guys, any recommendation on Baron sizing for that 318 sole?
post #14 of 20

Either will work, but you won't have much adjustment room on the larger side with the small since it only goes up to 325.
 

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Guys, any recommendation on Baron sizing for that 318 sole?


 

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I understand Salomon is coming out with a randonee set up that is similar to the Marker Duke. It will be lower to the ski and lighter, I hear. Actually it's out I believe.


Not out yet, still in testing.  Last rumor was that it would most likely be a 12/13 release, but that's not firm yet.

post #16 of 20

I'd go small, they're going to be a bit lighter, unless you see yourself growing another 7mm

 

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Guys, any recommendation on Baron sizing for that 318 sole?


 

post #17 of 20
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I'd go small, they're going to be a bit lighter, unless you see yourself growing another 7mm
 

 

No, not while skiing, anyway.
 

 

post #18 of 20

You need to put a pair of real bindings on an MFD Alltime plate.  Nothing can compare to the low stack height and the durability/burliness of a real binding.  I'd recommend the Rossi FKS 180/Look Pivot 18 or a Salomon Driver if you must.

post #19 of 20

Vince F read somewhere that the MFD Alltime is going to retail for $300!  Seems expensive to Vince F, especially since Prickly already has the Barons.  th_dunno-1[1].gif

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Vince F read somewhere that the MFD Alltime is going to retail for $300!  Seems expensive to Vince F, especially since Prickly already has the Barons.  th_dunno-1[1].gif



20% off on backcountry.com right now.  And a pair just went for $200, new, on eBay.  The dismal season is going to make the closeouts come fast and furious, methinks.

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