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Are any baselayers/thermals 3/4 length?

post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 

This past winter I've been wearing underarmour compression coldgear bottoms, and these are too tight to pull up out of my lower leg and cuff them on my calf (they dig in and are painful).  Thus, I've had socks plus a baselayer in my boot cuff. 

 

What are methods for avoiding this?

 

 

Also, how much of a problem--really--is it to have a baselayer in your boot cuff?

post #2 of 28

There are a series of 3/4 length base layers. Stoic has some good ones.

 

Here are the Stoic ones:

http://www.backcountry.com/stoic-merino-bottom-3-4-length-mens

 

 

Also, Surfanic:

http://www.boardwise.com/p-4657-surfanic-long-john-34-length-thermal-base-layer-black.aspx

 

Check out Backcountry. They have a whole series of base layers that could work.

 

post #3 of 28
post #4 of 28

CW-X and Opedix both have 3/4-length options.

post #5 of 28

I/O Bio has 3/4 length. Deal if you have supporter status.

post #6 of 28

I know Dakine has a 3/4 pant and I think Under Armour does too.

post #7 of 28

Icebreaker has several models of varying warmth.

post #8 of 28

Yes, I was just about to mention these.  My daughter, who is 5'3" and normally finds that 3/4 is full length on her, found these to be suitable. 
 

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Icebreaker has several models of varying warmth.



 

post #9 of 28

Public Service Announcement:

 

I can tell you from years of experience and trying many options, it is a really bad idea to have your long underwear extending into your boots.  My friend is only half joking when he says he has a drawer full of ski socks, but only two pair that really work in his boots. The goal is a boot/sock combo that you can ski in all day without touching your buckles, even when you go in for lunch. Footbeds, heat molded liners, whatever it takes, but once you get a comfortable secure fit you have to be crazy to cram long underwear in there.  Cut them off if you have to, but short bottoms and real long tops (that stay in your pants and over your butt for the chair rides) are what I look for in a ski base layer.

post #10 of 28

i can't ski with the lj's in the boot either. marmot & helly hansen have them as well.

post #11 of 28
Thread Starter 

Yeah, I hear you guys on boot troubles... I'm in the midst of trying to get a 98mm "plug-a-bee" to fit my gigantic feet...  however I will say that the fit issue are not in ankle/leg but rather in the forefoot area.  But still I want to make things the best they can be so I am going to get one of the 3/4th options.

 

It's gonna be trouble I'm sure, because I'm 5'7" and probably truly should be in a 29 inseam, however I take leg training very seriously and have quite monstrous thighs (at least compared to other individuals my height).  Therefore I hope the 3/4 length in an appropriate "size" will stay above my boot cuff (which is already riding up into my calf muscles b/c my legs are shorter than the legs of an average male the boots were designed to fit).  As a last resort, I will consider cutting the thermals down or taking them to a tailor to properly take them down.

 

 

It's a little off my topic, but a guy in a Winter Park bootfitting store told me that even the "PhD" ski socks are too thick?  WTF?  I thought those were already thin.  Jeez, are we supposed to be wearing micro fabric on our feet?

post #12 of 28

I have  the cw-x 3/4 length.  I like them so much I have two pairs.  

 

I can't comment on the "conditioning" feature, but they are warm and comfortable.

post #13 of 28
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Originally Posted by BoredAtBMBW View Post


It's a little off my topic, but a guy in a Winter Park bootfitting store told me that even the "PhD" ski socks are too thick?  WTF?  I thought those were already thin.  Jeez, are we supposed to be wearing micro fabric on our feet?


smartwool phd ultralight is fine.  regular phd is indeed too thick.  Not sure about phd medium, my guess is that it is too thick as well.

 

  I use the phd snowboard light for skiing, as it has paddings on the left and right side areas above the ankle.  Before using snowboard light,  I do not get sheen bang, but has a bit of abrasion at those locations.

 

post #14 of 28

I use the Smartwool 3/4 length (boottop) midweight same referenced in post 3.  I am always hot, so I was a little concerned that they were mid instead of lightweight, but they have been perfect for me with just shell pants in temperatures ranging from 5 F to 45F.  Merino is, IMHO, the absolute best wicking material.

post #15 of 28

Why not just use scissors and cut to the proper length ????   That's actually what I do for myself and my kids.......  FWIW, I use cycling tights....   work great !!!!

post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by LouD-Reno View Post

Why not just use scissors and cut to the proper length ????   That's actually what I do for myself and my kids.......  FWIW, I use cycling tights....   work great !!!!



Yes, this is fine until repeated washings and wearings cause fraying like cut-off jeans... have you experienced this?

post #17 of 28
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Originally Posted by JHoback View Post

i can't ski with the lj's in the boot either. marmot & helly hansen have them as well.


Helly's 3/4 pants are crappy. No elastic on the ends so they ride up past your knees and you have cold legs.

 

I/O Bio's Contact 3/4 pants are the best I've used so far.

 

post #18 of 28

Mountain Hardwear also has a 3/4 baselayer.

post #19 of 28
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Helly's 3/4 pants are crappy. No elastic on the ends so they ride up past your knees and you have cold legs.

 

I/O Bio's Contact 3/4 pants are the best I've used so far.

 

 

Good to know, but I haven't experienced this since I wear neoprene knee warmers which don't let anything ride up. Will check out the I/O's.
 

 

post #20 of 28

You could try Brynje also. That's the Norwegian underwear, most known for their "Super Thermo" mesh type long underwear. They make it in 3/4 length. (even 1/2 length) The mesh style is very effective for temps that tend to get warm, or you can use it as a next to skin layer and then put a mid layer for really cold stuff. It works really well though it looks a little odd. It is definitely the best for stretch type pants or layers. The 3/4 length will not be too long. If anything, too short.

http://www.brynje-shop.com/index.html

 

as far as I know, only available in US here:

http://www.reliableracing.com/detail.cfm?edp=10422137

 

 

post #21 of 28
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Yes, this is fine until repeated washings and wearings cause fraying like cut-off jeans... have you experienced this?



I've been using scissors for years. Have not had fraying issues with Under Armour, Nike Pro Cold, Layer 8. Did have a little fraying with Medalist which wasn't cotton but felt a bit like cotton - but by the time the fraying was becoming a concern the elastic waist was shot anyway. Be careful not to crop off too much as it's annoying when the long jons pull out of the elastic of your ski socks. I used to fold them up so they would be outside my boot before I started using scissors on them to just get rid of the excess.

 

post #22 of 28

Scissors. As far as durability goes, I cut some 8 or 9 years ago and ski every day and haven't killed them yet.

post #23 of 28

I really, really, really like these.

 

Expensive, yes.

 

I hate, hate, hate heavy insulated pants. Too baggy in the legs, too bulky around the waist.

 

I combine these and a light insulated Spyder (not a brand snob, got them on a great sale...) for bitter cold,

and for medium Vermont winter, these and a Gore-Tex shell.

 

For me, the compression is the thing, and my knees are absolutely more stabilized.

 

http://www.backcountry.com/cw-x-insulator-stabilyx-3-4-tights-mens?CMP_ID=PM_VL0353#review_200029083

 

Cheers.

 

@

 

 

post #24 of 28

One of the UA BaseMaps is 3/4 and stays in place right above the boots.   Got some Patagonia capilenes that are billowy enough just to be pulled up above the boots.  I have some  calf crunching compression pants from Cabelas and UA that I might take the scissors to since Epic says he has had no trouble with fraying on his cut off long johns.

 

No trouble hear with the boots with the lightweight Smartwool PhD socks or the PhD or Stoic midweights, but I am not racing in 97mm lasts either.

post #25 of 28
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Originally Posted by BoredAtBMBW View Post

Yes, this is fine until repeated washings and wearings cause fraying like cut-off jeans... have you experienced this?

 

 



Not with cycling tights.....  got 100 days on my current pair.... probably close to 75 days on the one's the kids are wearing.....  and yes, I have washed them !!!!

 

post #26 of 28
Cloudveil Run Don't Walk knickers.
post #27 of 28
Www.skinsusa.com
Snow thermal 3/4
post #28 of 28

came across these and seemed interesting with the built in knee warmers. anyone have them?

http://www.scott-sports.com/us_en/product/9907/50077/216649

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