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I never heard of wobenyme n, so I googled it.  Sounds like the FDA outlawed it?

 

FDA Action

  • In 2008, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) banned the over-the-counter sale of topical preparations containing the papaya-derived enzyme papain. Some products manufactured by Wobenzym N, including creams and ointments, were affected by this legislation. The FDA's official policy states that the recall occurred because some people suffered from allergic reactions to the enzyme. This decision was met with some controversy within the alternative health community, since the risk of allergic reaction is slim for people using topical preparations.


 


 

 

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FDA Action

  • In 2008, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) banned the over-the-counter sale of topical preparations containing the papaya-derived enzyme papain. Some products manufactured by Wobenzym N, including creams and ointments, were affected by this legislation. The FDA's official policy states that the recall occurred because some people suffered from allergic reactions to the enzyme. This decision was met with some controversy within the alternative health community, since the risk of allergic reaction is slim for people using topical preparations.


 


 

 



Yeah, don't get me started on the FDA. Here's an older article, the first part deals with Wobenzym, the rest is just stuff about the dangers of NSAIDs http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article986148.ece

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 There is no way I can truly be The Man until I use steroids. Really.

 

 

ROFLMAO!!!!  You would need lots and lots of those 'roids.  Really. 

post #94 of 109
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Yeah, don't get me started on the FDA. Here's an older article, the first part deals with Wobenzym, the rest is just stuff about the dangers of NSAIDs http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article986148.ece


Is the FDA aware of this?:

 

 

What Would Sue Do?

http://www.snorgtees.com/
 

 

post #95 of 109

It is always useful to state if a treatment is a prescrition or a supplement at the initial mention of it in a thread.

 

Many NSAIDS are by prescription and the Doctor and pharmacist both warn the user of sudden death, high blood presure, blood sugar etc.  And the FDA warning is prominent.

 

Supplements are a little harder to track in terms of side effects as you have to plow through the history of the thing and doseage and anectdote.  Many of the arguements are unfounded based on profit motive or manufacturer endorsed research that is legal.  The FDA may not even be involved with these substances until complaints have risen to that level and this could take years of tears.

 

My spouse is a VP at a pharmaceutical development company that we own.  The FDA thorn in our side is everywhere we go, thank God.

post #96 of 109
I took one of the prescription NSAIDs that was banned a few years ago. No detrimental effect to my knowledge, but I'm back to plain old Ibuprofen (Advil is the brand, but generics are just fine), which I believe is also an NSAID. A little hard on an empty stomach, but does the job quickly and reliably.
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ROFLMAO!!!!  You would need lots and lots of those 'roids.  Really. 



Ya segbrown keep doing what you've been doing it seems to be working smile.gif .

 

Here is another example of the FDA looking out for us

 

http://www.colcrys.com/about-market-clearance/faq.htm 

 

Colchicine a drug that precedes the FDA, hence it was considered unapproved. Used to cost $30 for 30 days. The FDA approved Colcrys costs $220/30 day.

 

post #98 of 109
Thread Starter 

Just a doubt i have about jumping & landing larger jumps...

 

How far should i bend my knees (is it better to almost sit down or just slightly bend).

Should i tense my hamstrings and quads.

Should i try to fall all flexed so i don't move down more, or softer so that as i fall i bend my knees even more...

 

cheers

post #99 of 109

How about starting small and working up to it.  I think that you will figure it out with experience a lot better than listening to some of the "experts" on this forumwink.gif
 

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Originally Posted by leopinto View Post

Just a doubt i have about jumping & landing larger jumps...

 

How far should i bend my knees (is it better to almost sit down or just slightly bend).

Should i tense my hamstrings and quads.

Should i try to fall all flexed so i don't move down more, or softer so that as i fall i bend my knees even more...

 

cheers



 

post #100 of 109

Don't land on flats or anything approaching flats.

post #101 of 109

 

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She also stated that most folks that take it don't notice a difference until they stop.

 

+1.

 

I am as skeptical as anyone when it comes to herbal medicines, this one works for me. If it's a placebo effect, oh well...

post #102 of 109
Im 20 and my knees hurt everyday. I wear jumper's knee braces on both knees. Works like a charm. My patella tendon is pulling away from the patella and tibia.
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Edited by lostnspace - 10/3/11 at 10:54pm
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...a few years ago, i came off a blind jump getting great air and realized that the landing zone was occupied by punk boarders...

 

Airing out a blind jump means the boarders weren't the only punks in this scenario.  Maybe not even the main ones.

 

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if there is a next time, the skis go in their faces.  it is not worth the injury.  life is too short to live as a cripple because board punks have zero ski-hill etiquette.  

 

Highlighted for the exquisite irony.  

 

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Edited by lostnspace - 10/3/11 at 10:55pm
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just goes to show,  the main point of pain resolution is lost so that somebody can get a dig in.  the jump was built for skiers at the site on a black diamond run.  before i took the route to the jump, i watched for anybody going that way for approx. five minutes,  there was nobody.  those kids were there smoking cigarettes in the land zone because they could hide their smoking at that location.  not one was over the age of twelve.  there were a half dozen kids puffing away so they could look tough.  that is the scenario,  half dozen ten to twelve year olds smoking while sitting in the land zone.  yeah, to me those are punks.  maybe you, sir, buy cigarettes for 10 and 12 year olds.  maybe you smoke cigarettes with 10 and 12 year olds.   responsible adults do not condone cigarette smoking by grade school kids.  thats for punks.  i go to ski hills to ski.  not to smoke, nor drink nor to interfere with anybody else, skiers or boarders.  i call em as i see em.  why read books when you can judge them by the cover, right?


Sorry, but you were wrong to hit the jump without spotting it.  What if someone had been injured in that spot and was lying there with a patroller or two working on them?  Or perhaps a child cratered while jumping and was collecting his/her gear?  

 

And your comment:

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maybe you, sir, buy cigarettes for 10 and 12 year olds.  maybe you smoke cigarettes with 10 and 12 year olds.   responsible adults do not condone cigarette smoking by grade school kids.  thats for punks.

 

...makes me happily certain that you have no idea what you're talking about and do not take responsibility for your actions.  I'd like to know where you ski so that I can avoid it.  

 

And speaking of pain resolution, the best method I know is not to get hurt, and not hitting jumps blind is a good way to start.  

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Edited by lostnspace - 10/3/11 at 10:56pm
post #108 of 109

 

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Originally Posted by lostnspace View Post

geez, this is way too personal for me to continue.  now its the what-ifs.  what if jesus was there.  what would he do.  

 

rolleyes.gif  Seriously weak sauce there Mr. space.

 

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you win pal,  you have successfully creeped me out. 

 

Ah, but you have creeped me out.  

 

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...ski runs are not smoking lounges for preteens.  ski areas i have been to have ski shops, not smoke shops. 

 

You're right but that has absolutely nothing to do with you launching blind jumps.  Try taking responsibility for your actions instead of blaming others for what you did.

 

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...you, BL, will find something wrong with anything i say, any response i make.  

 

So it would seem.  But don't think it's because I'm out for you or anything, it's because you've been dangerous when you ski.  

 

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...and, btw, if it were a situation where someone had crashed, that would be different, ...

 

How would it be it different - then it would be your fault?  You launched blind and you couldn't tell who or what was at the landing.  Launching blind was what you did that was wrong.  Whatever the kids did that was wrong does not absolve you of your irresponsibility.  It's in the book - you can look it up.  

post #109 of 109

Joint Juice has been great for me, but my knee pain isn't horrible, just obnoxious.

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