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Best icy hard snow carver?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

Opinions on the best carving skis for very icy snow (Down in Australia)?

Would you guys consider the SS Magnums a good hard packed snow carver, even though it is considerably flexible & soft?

Any recommendations on best pair of rossi's for hard snow?

post #2 of 14

Skiing on ice is, in priority order, about:

1) How good the pilot (i.e., you) are

2) How sharp your edges are

3) What skis are on your feet

 

That said, there's a reason that race skis are the narrowest things around.  I have a pair of Blizzard G-Power FS IQ skis that hold like a dream on New England ice.

 

 

post #3 of 14

The SS Magnum can be an excellent hard snow ski, just keep 'em sharp and get them on edge earlyin your turns. The very 'best' carving skis for ice are going to be real race skis, but they are also going to be the least versatile. Basically, I think the Magnum is a great ski that can do a little bit of everything at a very high level... for a good skier. A less skilled pilot may feel they are 'soft' when they are pushed around, I'd say- don't push them around. It's a carving ski, tip it on edge and use the sidecut.

post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by leopinto View Post

Opinions on the best carving skis for very icy snow (Down in Australia)?

Would you guys consider the SS Magnums a good hard packed snow carver, even though it is considerably flexible & soft?

Any recommendations on best pair of rossi's for hard snow?

You can't beat race skis for carving in firm conditions, but you don't really want to do anything else with them.  If hard snow carving is all you care about, pick up a pair of SL or GS skis from your maker of choice, and you should be good to go.

 

The SS Magnum works well as a hard snow carver if you put a good tune on it, and is also versatile enough to do other stuff decently.  It's not soft if you buy it in the right length for your weight.  I'm 5'7" and 160-165lbs, and find the 170cm version works well for me on days when I want to make short turns.  I have other skis for days when I want to go faster and make bigger turns.

 

No clue on the rossis; sorry.

post #5 of 14

My vote goes to the Blizzard G power FS IQ, the one with the oil filled shock asorber and 7.2 wide under the foot. It was the grippiest ski in the ski/performance rental shop that i worked at this winter. 

post #6 of 14

Race skis, SL, GS, SG; pick your speed. You can get by with a race ski in other conditions, but it will be much less enjoyable.  You cannot extract the same level of performance on hard snow as you can from a racing ski.

You pays your money and you makes your choices.  You can't have everything.

 

I wish I had the ability to demo all the choices, If I had to choose right now my top three on the demo list would be  Fischer, Atomic, and throw in the Kästle RX/RX12 for good measure.

 

 

post #7 of 14

Wasn't there a pair of Volkl Superspeeds for sale in Gear Swap for $125?  I'd go for those.

post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by DanoT View Post

My vote goes to the Blizzard G power FS IQ, the one with the oil filled shock asorber and 7.2 wide under the foot. It was the grippiest ski in the ski/performance rental shop that i worked at this winter. 


What he said. Own a pair. Remarkable grip for a non-racing ski, and versatile shape, flex pattern.

 

post #9 of 14

If you can get on a pair of Elan Wavemasters, or the latest equal,  you might find the hard snow performance satisfactory.

 

I have become enamored with them

post #10 of 14

Stockli SX gets my vote for great edge hold with a bit more versatility than an SL or GS.

post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 

Brothers skis on them and loves them. Any idea of new models coming out?

post #12 of 14

Rossi? Radical 9GS Ti. Excellent fat (80mm) cheater GS. For tighter turns try the 9SL Ti.

 

 


Edited by Squawker - 4/22/11 at 11:28pm
post #13 of 14

Like Ghost said the best would be an all out race ski.   If you dont care for the radius in the FIS approved skis then go for a "cheater" race ski.   Since Head skis is what I know, a good one would be the Supershape i.Speed....or for something with even a higher top end, look into that new beast by Head the GTO SW, which seems to be a cheater Super G ski, it seems to be a hell of a-lotta ski though.....its being marketed as a man's ski (as opposed to unisex) if that says anything.  http://youtu.be/Cgnowx9RsTE

 

But no matter the ski if not tuned right it will not perform as well as it could/should.

post #14 of 14

Just posted a comment over on your poll thread, with suggestions for alternatives in the 70's that handle ice better. Suggest you calm down about this and ask yourself how much of your interest is being nervous on ice, versus liking to challenge it. As far as Rossi's, the older Radical OS models are very nice on ice for lighter skiers, comparatively forgiving, but too narrow to be very happy in crud. The newer ones are wider, but harder to handle. The Avenger series is nice but more all-mountain. I like the idea of Stockli SX's, but not so sure they'll be ideal for an intermediate. The CX model doesn't give up much at all and is more forgiving. Dawgcatching had a great, very accurate review of both. Realize they are $$; if you can go that high, the Kastle RX70 is also sweet. 

 

As far as race skis or cheaters, have any of you read the OP's poll post, where he mentions he's a high intermediate? 


Edited by beyond - 4/23/11 at 12:19pm
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