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Supershape Magnum confusion - please help clarify.

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Im trying to get a new 2010 model of Supershape Magnums (still 71 underfoot), my local store has a 2008 or 2009 model (they don't know). I've been searching through google for the differences between the standard Supershape Magnums (2008-10) models, but can't find any information regarding them. All i could find is great reviews for the 2010 model, but nothing for 2009... 

 

Any ideas if the magnums are a good pair of carving skis for hard snow?

Do you know if there are any spec differences between these models or if its just slight changes in graphics?

 

Appreciate it!

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Im trying to get a new 2010 model of Supershape Magnums (still 71 underfoot), my local store has a 2008 or 2009 model (they don't know). I've been searching through google for the differences between the standard Supershape Magnums (2008-10) models, but can't find any information regarding them. All i could find is great reviews for the 2010 model, but nothing for 2009... 

 

Any ideas if the magnums are a good pair of carving skis for hard snow?

Do you know if there are any spec differences between these models or if its just slight changes in graphics?

 

Appreciate it!


They (all years) are good hard snow carving skis compared to other skis of their ilk.

They are not good carving skis compared to Head SuperShape or Head SuperShape Speed skis or skis like these, but they are more versatile.

 

 

 

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Have owned and skied both due to a warranty replacement for the first year. (.size: 170cm)

Not a whole lot of difference. The later version is marginally stiffer which is good.

These are very soft skis. They are not actually great hard snow carvers unless you weigh under 165lbs - too soft. I believe the 177 may be a bit beefier. Ski excels in packed powder and softer hard snow, good in bumps cause it's soft.

It really doesn't matter which year you get.

 

some shop people have the idea that this is a beefy  race type ski. It is not.

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From that review:

 

Good firm, progressive flex with a large
platform to stand on. It has a big sweet spot to help
make it arc, and is stable at all speeds.
» MIKE WEISS

 Stable at all speeds? Clearly he's not flying. I would say it's stable at fairly decent speed, but it's soft and thus it is no speed machine and is definitely not a high speed cruiser. Agree with big sweet spot.

The ss magnum really has exceptional snow feel. It's one of those skis that has something that's difficult to categorize. It does not have exceptional hard snow grip. I would say it barely makes it to "good" hard snow grip frankly. But that's east coast standards.


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Easy to initiate and holds especially well, with
an even flex through the entire ski. The stiffness
is ideal at speed and makes this ski predictable.
» RON BETTS

 Well again, these people don't ski fast. It's interesting skiing it on slushy snow at high speed. The tip is flopping  around like a fish but somehow it's ok. The softness of it gives it better bump forgiveness, though I managed to bend my first pair.


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This ski prefers rounder arcs in the first half of
the turn. The tail is strong and some steering effort
is required to complete the turn. It enjoys staying in
the fall line in medium-sized arcs. » PAUL CUNNIUS

 Some steering effort required to complete the turn? Utterly ridiculous statement. Sure, if you want to do that, but this thing arcs em just fine once on edge. That's the whole point of this ski.

The ski is listed at 13.5m @ 170cm, but because it bends so easily it really seems like the radius is smaller. It'll do big turns or short turns just depends how you work it.

My favorite time for this ski is when you get little bumps of packed powder and can get air over them. Really, this ski has gives some of the best snow feel feedback I've ever experienced.

 

170cm is totally inappropriate for the west imo. I know bob Peters skied the 177cm at Jackson for a long time and loved it. Trust me, if you weigh well north of 150lbs and you take this in a 170 on the steep stuff at say Big Sky, you will not be happy.

 

If you're looking for a hard snow gripper, and a high speed power charger, you'll want the Nordica Mach 3 Speedmachine or Mach 3 Power.

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