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MX78 question

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

So Marker did finally send me a new (used) set of heels for the Jesters with the cracked heels.

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/102469/jester-failure

 

I skied the MX78s for the first time today. I'll have to say they feel different than any ski I've been on before. I agree with everyone they are quite damp and have very good edge hold. I also like how I could tighten the radius mid-turn by just applying some extra tipping. What bothered me a bit was I felt like the ski could benefit from having the binding moved forward of where it was. It was mounted on the factory mounting point. I like to ski with a lot of fore-aft weight shift but on this ski I never felt like I could weight the tip at the beginning of the turn. Now don't get me wrong the ski would still engage and pull me into the turn it's just that it always felt like I could get it to hook up a lot quicker if I could weight the tip like I usually do. After a few runs I kind of forgot about it and just started skiing it more from the middle and it skied great. I wish these had a binding that was more adjustable but the Jesters just don't get it done in that department. I hate to drill more holes for another binding setup but I feel like it could go from really good to great with a change. Where are people mounting these?

post #2 of 12

i skied them this year at a demo day and think you're being nice to them, JMO.  there are so many great choices lately that anyone can get exactly what they want.  what else are you looking at and conditions?

post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 

I have a pair of 11/12 Motive 80s that I ski as my everyday non-pow but not hard snow ski in CO. Much more nervous but turn in quicker. I got an amazing ebay deal on the  Kastles and with all the great reviews jumped on it. I'll only keep one of the two but I've learned sometimes it takes me a while to decide, more than a few demo runs allow.  Sounds like they didn't wow you.

post #4 of 12

i'm an eastern skier btw but i went to demo day to tried alot of skis, which included the mx78.  i'd always liked my fischer rx8's and frankly all the salomon, atomic and rossignol skis were out...i tried the fischers.  started with the motive 76, then 80, then progressor series...

eventually, i got a hold of some of the other skis, including the mx78's.  honestly i wanted to fall in love with them.  they were light, had a good engineering schpeil and i could actually buy them at demo day!  i felt all the things you felt and then some.  i hate to bash a ski, but maybe it was me?  i tried falling in love with them.  i ended up wanting the fischer motive 76.  i'm short at 5'6" and 158 lbs and the only challenge was actually buying them.  noone carried them and ended up ordering them. 

post #5 of 12

You are asking the wrong question.  I might mount them 2cm ahead, someone else might mount them 2cm back...and we could easily have them mounted in the optimum position for ourselves.

 

I ski the MX88 as my daily ski, and actually felt that I was being pitched forward on them....I ditched my boots for another pair with much less ramp angle, and now the combo is super sweet....without question one of the best I have ever had....but my physical make up is almost guarnateed to be different to yours, different boots (ramp, flex, forward lean) so asking what others do is useless.

 

 

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post #6 of 12

i hope you're affiliated with Kastle.  if you can make them work for me, then let me know. 

post #7 of 12

....but my physical make up is almost guarnateed to be different to yours, different boots (ramp, flex, forward lean) so asking what others do is useless.

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Originally Posted by skeeter984 View Post

i hope you're affiliated with Kastle.  if you can make them work for me, then let me know. 



I'm pretty sure based on some of the skis you have liked that the issue is primarily sidecut, the MX78 doesn't have as much as you seem to like. The mounting point on the Kastle is farther back (trad. Austrian "skier's ski" mount point) than the French brands or more recreational skis.

 

I'd say: if you want to like a Kastle, try an LX82 with a CTi binding so you can adjust it forward... or stick with a ski you like. Plenty of options out there, not everyone will like every one.

post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 

I didn't say I didn't like the ski, just wondering if anyone had moved the mounting point forward to change the one aspect I found not to my taste.

post #9 of 12

I was responding to Skeeter984 who said he/she wanted to like the Kastles, but didn't, and asked for advice as to 'how' to make them work.

 

For you Stevesmith7, you got a great deal on eBay, just move the toe forward a cm, leave the heel where it is and adjust it forward, what have you got to lose, they are skis- not an investment. If you like them more, you WIN, if you don't you can go back into the old holes or resell them.

post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 

That's a good idea. The heel is near the back of it's travel for my boot as it is so just moving the toes should get what I want with minimal new holes. I didn't think of that.

post #11 of 12

I had the same feeling when I was skiing the FX...74 I think it was?  It was mounted at factory, but I wished it was mounted about a cm forward.  This is the exact reason I almost always use plates now days, and hopefully getting a schizo or 2 next year.  The KTi plate is amazing on the MX78, in case you see one around for cheap.  

post #12 of 12

I felt the same way on the FX94.  Was originally mounted with a Jester, I remounted with a Griffon demo so I could play with the binding position and get it dialed in.
 

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Originally Posted by stevesmith7 View Post

I didn't say I didn't like the ski, just wondering if anyone had moved the mounting point forward to change the one aspect I found not to my taste.



Good luck finding a KTI plate cheap.  I looked into getting an extra plate so I could swap bindings be and was quoted $250 just for the plate.  It's an awesome binding system though!  I have it on my Kastle RX.



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Originally Posted by RaceDude View Post

I had the same feeling when I was skiing the FX...74 I think it was?  It was mounted at factory, but I wished it was mounted about a cm forward.  This is the exact reason I almost always use plates now days, and hopefully getting a schizo or 2 next year.  The KTi plate is amazing on the MX78, in case you see one around for cheap.  



 

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