Alright, so I got pretty much what I expected here, cause it really does seem as though you didn't actually read a word that I wrote earlier...I'll try to limit the rhetoric here and stick to simple, yes/no questions, hopefully that helps to get around some of the confusion here.
Ya, I read about the Dolphin turn, it sure looks the the CSIA "go to" turn/tactic in the moguls. It's basically a 90° airborne pivot into or past the fall line. I'll use it if I need it, but don't rely on it to consistently initiate turns in natural terrain. I'm promoting generating staying forward and developing early shovel edge pressure in the high "C", I'm not the mogul skier getting repeatedly bounced around like a ping pong ball, the CSIA skier is.
And about being forward, you successfully found another shot that shows your body way ahead of your feet.
Is my body way ahead of my feet or is it centered over my skis?
Let me clarify, the second pic is NOT just another turn, it is the NEXT turn following the original pic/turn that Skidude proclaimed absolutely incorrectly, "Furthter if he gets a mogul impact he will end up going over the handle bars or at least with a good head bob." Well, I'd say I deflected quit high off the mogul sidewall with speed. Sure it was intense, but I was well positioned, being "to far forward" I was able to handle the deflection with ease, I don't think I even dropped my hand back...
If you watch the video on YouTube, I'm basically "to far forward" down the entire section, It's crisp, rhythmic and smooth skiing IMO, I'd say I'm typically generating early shovel edge pressure in the high "C" and continue to progressively build it into the turn finish where I extend my knees and close my ankles sharply, moving pressure from fore/centered to centered/aft.
This is where the CSIA skiers in the video are deficient, they fail to maintain/regain a forward/centered aggressive stance (backseat) and are unable to consistently develop early shovel edge pressure which starts generating edge pressure late in the turn, and usually finishes with a lateral deflection off the mogul side wall. These guys are not stuffing the tips into the mogul face and linking a backside turn. This impact/deflection again launches the backseat skier into the air during transition and usually through the high "C" where generating shovel edge pressure is late, if acquired at all, often as late as when the skis are coming back across the fall line....I think you get the idea....late makes late, makes late...
You're still talking about the CSIA guys being backseat, and yes, you successfully found a frame as evidence, but I thought I did a pretty ok job of explaining how that's a part of skiing bumps. That whole dolphin turn/backwards pedaling thing, its all there in the video, plain as day if you have an honest look at
AA, a backseat dolphin turn is still backseat and means late trouble. There is a limit to how far back the skiers butt can drop behind his bindings in order to successfully regain the forward/centered stance in time to initiate the next turn with shovel pressure. Big difference and results between an aggressive forward dophin turn and backseat desperation. Again, it looks to me like the airborne 90° pivot (dolphin turn) is supported as a CSIA "go to move". I'd say they are a little to dependent on it, they should try to get forward and stay there.
1. Are you seriously going to tell me that you think the skiers in the video are chronically back seat in all phases of the turn throughout their runs?
YES, I'm not commenting or comparing the powder clips or the groomed skiing however. I'd say "chronically backseat" is a fair assessment, not always or constantly, but certainly quite often.
I like the pow video, but wish I could see more of the first section of the Blue jacket guy, his stuffs the tips into the pile and then stuffs them again, but catches a little bunny hop and then the clip cuts out, I'd really like to see more of that section.
Let's take a look at some stills from 23 seconds to 41 seconds. I don't see advantages of the late reactive/defensive backseat dolphin turn that make it a more desirable tactic to gain speed/line control compared to staying forward in an aggressive forward stance and hooking up the shovel edges early in the high "C", basically sticking QCT's.
The clip starts with a big backseat dolphin turn and is followed expectedly by a big airborne pivot through the fall line...very atheletic though.
This what I'd call a classic backseat dolphin turn, again there is no shove edge contact in the high "C", if the skier was "to far forward", they likely would have been able to regain snow contact much earlier
back and late again...
OK, maybe this is the classice backseat finish/transition, dolphin turn, whatever..
Hips way to far back, no shovel edge pressure in the high "C" again, there's still no pressure in the fall line with the downhill ski....I say the skier is late and backseat.
This is an interesting still, skier is backseat again/still, the skis are starting to come back across the fall line and still NO pressure on the downhill shovel yet, but is riding the tail...gotta be late...
Back, late and contorted, desperate to pull those tips into the fall line.
Again, back and compressed. It's just not an optimal position to regain early shovel edge pressure in the high "C".
The skis have been rotated/pivoted back into the fall line during the high "C" again, IMO, the skier is simply to far backseat to generate shovel edge pressure.
Bounced again and to far back. If the skier was "way to far forward", he'd have been able to entend his knees as he stuffed his tips into the mogul face and be in position to immediatlely retract and get his shovels back on the snow.
There were some decent turns in that section, but even in those turns there was very little early shovel edge pressure in the high "C" which lead him to quickly being backseat and late. In quite a few of those dolphin turns, the skier does generate centered/aft edge pressures, usually after entering the fall line weightless, but it is simply to little, to late to maintain consistent speed control where he gains it by bouncing off the bottom of the mogul side wall.
2. Is it your opinion that its better to be forward rather than centered over your skis?
Center of chest (COM) or focused edge pressure? If edge pressure, what phase of the turn?
I consider the COM to be the center of the chest. I think it is optimal that the center of the chest should be in a perpendicular plane, relative to the slope, to the binding toe piece, which is usually close ot the center of the ski. In order to make a QCT on a steep slope, the chest feels like it is projected way down the hill from the toe piece, but in reality I think it is 90° to it. I think this allignment would probably be considered "forward" of center by most skiers, but not sure.
I obviously believe it is key to to have the center of the chest projected forward over the center of the ski in order to generate early shovel edge pressure in the high "C" to initiate the turn, which gains the skier the advantage of being able to have better "control" of the progressive edge pressures that build and move to the center of the skis as they enter the fall line. As pressure reaches it's maximum at the turn finish, it is shifted to the center/aft section of the ski by extending the knees and closing the ankles.
I'll try to post a pic of a forward/centered dolphin turn, we've seen plenty examples of backseat ones.