Best way to learn bumps?

you had a bad experience, but a good lesson open up your bump skiing.  Do more research and find a highly qualified instructor who knows what he is talking about.  Try it again.  Get something from the lesson that you can work on after the session.  Bumps are a great place to instill bad habits.

 

Bored,

 

From your posts here you seem pretty genuinly dedicated to improving your racing.  Hands down the best way to do that is to work on being a better skier...this will be 100times more effective then playing with boot liners or getting FIS skis.  Buy used skis off of Ebay for $50 and spend your gear money on training like week long race camps or if you can regular season long programs (ie every wednesday night or what ever).  They are great value and will improve your racing AND bump skiing immensly. 

 

Many race camps are held at second tier resorts to keep costs low, and usually you can find someone to even share rooms with etc, discount tickets etc make them really affordable....

 

 

Not be harsh, but remember, it is not that you cant ski bumps...it is you cant ski, and the bumps prove it.

Best way?

 

Like any learning,  start in your comfort zone.

 

  Easy bumps...ski them!

 

Ski them again ...and then again....and again

 

Do this in  spring conditions when it's fun!  Enjoy   A pleasurable experience leaves a positive memory

 

Small steps...

 

believe it or not your missing some basic skills if you can not skiing bumps and your groomer sking /racing especially your SL turns will grow by leaps and bounds.

 

1.They are not bad on your knee if done correctly which means not alot of lateral movement.

2. I use to hate bumps as well, but then I learned to ski them assuming they arent totally horrible Ill ski them over anything but powder and day, plus most tree runs become bump runs.

3. race boots are fine but not ideal, but considering the majority of the hill is bumps at bigger areas should that be near the front of you consideration for a ski? My 3 favorite skis off all time "the one", Bushwacker, and Katana are all kick ass bumps skis that do other things quite well. If you want to ski off groomer you will eventually hit some form of bumps

 

you doomed to suck the way you thinking, why would someone ever get good at something that they hate? You have to learn to like them and start spending alot if not all of the day skiing them to get good at them.

 

Good bump skiing is simply the most solid turn your skill level can produces with tactics appropriate to your skill level/ quickness.

 

I am going to put down your skiing because you can see some things from your POV.

 

flaws I see specifically from you

 

1.you have very weak hands that drop down to your sides on every pole touch

2. your aft and have no concept of dynamic balance IE using the whole ski from tip to tail.

3.you only know extentsion transitions which are far from ideal in the bumps

4. you park and ride carve every turn.

5.your COM movement is delayed into the turn and you pole touch is late

 

I am sure there is more but I am going off the POV.

 

Somethings to practice to get better.

 

1. ski short turns with holding your poles straight out in front

2. ski short turns of various shapes(C,J, upside J, Z they are all needed for bump skiing) and skid angles from full on pivot to as carved as you can make it

3. practice hop turns they build agility and quickness while building solid rotary skill with a strong movment down the hill

4. Skate to shape turns, they teach aggressive and offensive short turns

5.short radius javeline turns teach proper counter balance while maintaining squareness to the hills

6.  pivot slips - search it but its solid foundation to most off trail skiing

7. dolphin turns - search it on youtube

8.edge wedge hop turns - hop turns done in a wedge from foot to foot.

 

 

take some 3rd person video of you skiing short turns and I can steer you in the right direction

 

lastly you will never be an expert unless you can ski bumps, and anyone who is real skier can ski them.

 

"its not that you cant ski bumps its that you cant ski and the bumps prove it"

 

that should motivate over making you mad when you start to understand bump skiing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Speaking from my experience -- bumps start clicking at about the same time you change your opinion of them.  That is, if you go in with a "I hate bumps" attitude, yes, you will get rocked, lose your balance, flail, etc.  Go in with the attitude that bumps are fun and you're halfway there.

 

An instructor can teach you the basics of bump skiing in a few hours, but that won't make it "click".  "Clicking" is the result of lots and lots and lots of practice -- practice you won't put yourself through so long as you maintain the "I hate bumps" attitude.

 

 

 

groomer skiing but most people on here including really ripping racers enjoy off trail skiing quite a bit.

 

BTW good bump skiing doesnt make your legs tired, if it make your legs tired you not doing it right.

 

and yes becoming a better off trail skier will actually make you better at racing. You will understand what you are doing on the snow more.

 

 

That was my first thought. The second thought is, Relaaaaax.

 

BWPA, you just gave me hope. Bumps seemed likely to be an exception to the first principle: with good skiing you can ski anything.

Gotta get my own copy of Ski the Whole Mountain. Somehow the ski porn must motivate me to work on the drills.

 

Upto you make the time.  If you dont put the time in, you wont improve.  Race camps wont likely teach bumps per se, but they will teach you the skills needed to ski bumps better then you do now.  The skills you learn in racing are transferable to bumps.

 

Sure your boots cant leave you in crippling pain...but you seem to be a gear head, save your money for training.
 

 

Why would you want to go to race camp to learn to ski bumps?  You should go to a bump camp instead.

 

Dude...it shows everything.

 

Forget new skis, and gear....get some ski training in. 

 

 

 

If your fitness only allows a few bumps in succession (15 seconds) at the rate depicted in the video.  I would suggest some "off snow" strengthening activity as an important aspect of your ability to progress and enjoy "the bumps".

 

It is not a requirement  to breath deeply when you stop,  but it frequently is part of the experience.

 

K.R.

actually 15 seconds is not too bad, if you average 2 turns per second.  So you are looking at 30 turns already.  I bet some don't even turn 30 times in an hour.

 

Watching the first clip,  you may wish to more actively involve your hands and poles in short turns to better negotiate moguls.  A good pole plant can act as a reference for turn definition.  Good skiers can certainly ski bumps without poles, but why would they?

If you want to improve your bump skiing, you should review a couple of the bump threads that have been ongoing for the last several months.

 

IMO, the quickest way to improve your natural terrain skiing is to develop a solid QCT (Quick Carved Turn), this turn is key and can be made virtually anywhere.

 

 

 

Agent.5

 

I counted 13 turns........could be off a few

OK.  So he was tired after 13 quick turns and needed a break.  I am not sure if there is anything necessarily wrong with that.

 

Skiing moguls is very tiring.

Nailbender

 

The first part of that video did a very poor job of demonstrating good pole technique.  The kids really don't care of such details and it shows.  They did a good job of talking about it though.  (Teach to the test?)

 

Still, a short swing turn is key to bumps.   The trendy QCT....ahhh, .....  bumps have been around a long long time..... ;-)