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whistler BC or Snowbird, Utah????? BC or Utah.......or Niseko

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

I am looking to base myself in either Whistler or Snowbird from the 5th Jan to 30 March 2011

Please can you help with a few questions?

 

How does the snow compare? Is the snow in Whistler always wet...even in Jan /feb and early march...i have only stayed in Whistler from 29 March onwards and the conditions have always been a mix of rain snow wind...no real big dumps but a mix of 7-10cm of wet and dry snow.

 

I have skied Utah in Nov and Dec and the conditions were great....i am sure jan / feb / mar would be pretty good?

 

Is it possible to rent a studio or 1 bedroom apartment in / very close to Snowbird?

 

Is it worth thinking about Solitutde in Utah?

 

I already have possible accom lined up in Whistler but the mid winter snow worries me a bit....obviously i would like light niseko  snow and bags of it wouldn t everyone....

 

Niseko is a small outside possibility but there really is no steep terrain there.....but i have to ask myself if i can live with this because of the snow quality and regularity during Jan / feb and early Mar

 

Anyway if you have any info to share please hit me with it....

post #2 of 20

I assume 2011 is a typo and you really mean 2012. Whistler wins out if a "ski village" is important although Whistler is more like a city with a sky line and the amount of shopping is a function of some of the crappy weather that they get. Their skier visits are way down this year but they normally get 2.2 million skier visits per year which is way too crowded imo. I have skied high quality thigh deep snow, but you get two runs and then it is skied out. Friends of mine that moved to WB years ago don't buy season passes anymore, instead they use snowmobiles to access the back country.

 

Snowbird would be my choice by far, great terrain and very high quality snow, and while I have heard that it can get crowded on weekends there are lots of other ski resorts close by. Nearby Sandy Utah is a suburb of Salt Lake City and has reasonable apartments for rent and is about a 15 minute drive to Snowbird and there is a shuttle bus.

post #3 of 20

Snowbird would have better snow,weather and be much cheaper, but that's about it.  Whistler would be much more of an experience, as would Niseko.

post #4 of 20
Thread Starter 

Guys thanks for your input.....sorry the dates were a typo ...should be 2012...

 

i am leaning towards Snowbird....i think the skied out comments are very valid and i totally agree.......would getting the bus from Sandy to the lifts be a pain each day???

Anybody done this before?????

post #5 of 20

Snowbird sounds like what you're looking for. It's got a good mix of dry, plentiful snow and killer terrain. And that's really all you seemed concerned about in the post.

post #6 of 20

A few years back I was thinknig of spending a winter in Utah & studio 6 I thought offered resonable monthly accomadation  in Salt Lake & I think the city ski bus pick up was very close. The location I think suited the less crowded cheaper Solitude & brighton mountains.

There must be a salt lake city chamber of commerce or salt lake city tourism that would have more info on accomadation.

 

 If your going by yourself the clif lodge @ snowbird used to have dorms that were priced reasonably

post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by chasse neige View Post

I am looking to base myself in either Whistler or Snowbird from the 5th Jan to 30 March 2011

Please can you help with a few questions?

 

I have skied Utah in Nov and Dec and the conditions were great....i am sure jan / feb / mar would be pretty good?

 

Is it possible to rent a studio or 1 bedroom apartment in / very close to Snowbird?

 

Is it worth thinking about Solitutde in Utah?

 

Jan / feb and early Mar

 

Anyway if you have any info to share please hit me with it....


Where have you skied in Utah besides Snowbird?  Would you have a car at all?

 

Haven't been to W/B so can't compare.  Had a chance to check out places other than Alta, Snowbird in Feb.  We stayed in a house that was near the airport, so it was convenient to all the major resorts.  Lodging rentals in the city are much cheaper than staying in a canyon.  Dorm rooms can be the way to go if all you want to do is eat, sleep, ski in LCC.  Some lodges include breakfast and dinner.

 

When LCC is closed due to snow, if you are in the city then being able to take the city bus to BCC for Solitude or drive to Snowbasin or Powder Mountain could be a nice option for an extended stay.  For LCC, one advantage of the bus for a closure is that it gets priority when things open up.

 

I rode up with older men who spend their winter in SLC, Jan-April.  One is from Wisconsin.  When I asked what his favorite run was (we were on Supreme), he pointed to the chutes below the chair.  But said he's more conservative now after breaking a leg four years ago. smile.gif  The other was younger.  He alternates season passes between Alta and Snowbird.

 

post #8 of 20

if your looking for lots of snow: Whistler
if your looking for lots of good snow: Utah

post #9 of 20
Thread Starter 

thanks for all the help...

 

i have emailed the Snowbird resort with an accommodation request.....keep you posted....

post #10 of 20

Strange question, in that you've chosen two very different big resorts for a very long stay (lucky you). Is this because you've done a lot of research and pared it down to these two, or because you've done very little and these are two names you know? Not being critical, just trying to help.

 

Of the two, I'd choose Snowbird. Of any resort in the US for that period, I'd choose Jackson Hole. In Canada, I'd perhaps base myself in interior BC, either at Revelstoke or Fernie, or in the Nelson/Rossland area. But that's just me.

I'm not a huge fan of Whistler's urbanish spread or wet climate, though over the course of an entire season you'd get some phenomenal skiing there.


If I had to spend a season at a Utah resort (which I've done, BTW, at Snowbird), I'd be tempted to choose Park City as my base, even though the snow's not quite as good as the Cottonwood canyons. Just a much more ski town feel at PC.

I also like two of the Colorado resorts, Telluride and Crested Butte, for their ski town vibe (though it's been a long time since I've been to T'ride). And there are a lot of Montana folks here who'd point you toward Bozeman or Whitefish; I've never been to either, though they're intriguing.

post #11 of 20
Thread Starter 

Hi and thanks for the info...i skied 2 weeks in Park City and liked it very much...i skied for 2 months this winter in JH staying in Teton Village and loved it.

I have skied many times in Whistler but always after 19 March...never in mid winter jan / feb / early march....

I figure the snow would be much better in Utah during the mid winter months and wondered how the snow would be up in Whistler....would it be wet during the mid winter months...

 

I really am focusing on snow and terrain as my main factors in choosing a resort.

 

Most advice seems to go with Snowbird and this works for me because i really liked Park City and Utah. 

 

Whistler is great ...big ski town feel .great steeps ...skied out quickly...can be wet...cheap chicken wings....and i have a handle on accom in Whistler village....if i can find the same style accom at a similar price i think i will go for snowbird unless i here different from guys on the site...

post #12 of 20

Hard to beat Snowbird for skiing and snow.

post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by chasse neige View Post

thanks for all the help...

 

i have emailed the Snowbird resort with an accommodation request.....keep you posted....


There is very little long term housing up the canyon.   The vast majority will be in suburban Salt Lake and IMHO,  you will need a car.

 



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Originally Posted by prickly View Post


If I had to spend a season at a Utah resort (which I've done, BTW, at Snowbird), I'd be tempted to choose Park City as my base, even though the snow's not quite as good as the Cottonwood canyons. Just a much more ski town feel at PC.
 


 

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Originally Posted by prickly View Post

Hard to beat Snowbird for skiing and snow.

 

   Park City is just too far to commute everyday to LCC and the skiing in PC is nowhere near to the quality of Snowbird/Alta.  Plus there is no common pass for the three resorts in PC, so you have to choose one mediocre resort? 

 

post #14 of 20

what a choice to have-can;t go wrong wherever you go.

 

atleast with Utah, there are alot of different resorts so you will never get bored.  personally, I think the skiing is better there in March/April too because you get to ski on the accumulation of a winters worth of snow-upwards of 600 inches with no fear of bare spots.  One plus is if you get wanderlust, SLC is an international airport so you can travel easily to anywhere.  One thing I never liked about Whistler is traveling back to vancouver on the local 2 lane highway which takes forever with traffic.

 

Whistle/Blackcomb?  more mountain than you can ski in a week or 2 since it;s 2 of the biggest and the biggest in north america.  the only thing close is Vail(#2) and the combined Snowbird/Alta.  been there in January and March and have had spring conditions both times so nothing immune from weather fluctuations.  Village is nice.  all Intrawest resorts seem to have a village(Stratton and Tremblant). 

 

Another choice could be something like Jackson Hole or Aspen.  They have skiing and nice towns that are close by.

 

oood luck!

post #15 of 20

Jackson or Utah.  I think you should also be waiting to see if there is an El Nino or La Nina (doubtful for La Nina) brewing and use Tony Crocker's site to find where the snow is most likely to be.  "Big ski town feel" in Whistler?  More like Disney-does-ski-town to me. 

post #16 of 20
Thread Starter 
I was in Jackson for 2 months this winter. So I would like to try somewhere different. I did read somewhere that the la Nina weather pattern would be around for 3 years with this being the first. I don't know if that's correct but I like the idea of it.

I have been offered a room at the inn at Snowbird for 182.00 a night... Over the duration I m looking for this ads up... I think It may be cheaper to stay in Sandy or anywhere slightly outside the canyon and try and rent a cheap vehicle...

The accom I have been offered in whistler is in the village 7 mins walk to GLC and only $65.00 a night and sleeps 4. The owner has given a great discount for the long term booking.

If I can get something similar in Utah I m done...
post #17 of 20

SLC if you plan on riding the lifts primarily.

 

Whistler if backcountry is a priority.

post #18 of 20

From NOAA:

 

  • How long does a La Niña last?
  • La Niña conditions typically last approximately 9-12 months. Some episodes may persist for as long as two years.

 

 

Quote:
Nearly all of the ENSO models predict La Niña to continue weakening in the coming months, and the majority of models indicate a return to ENSO-neutral by May-June-July 2011 (three month average in the Niño-3.4 index between –0.5oC and +0.5oC; Fig. 6). While there is confidence in ENSO-neutral conditions by June 2011, the forecasts for the late summer and beyond remain highly uncertain. At this time, all of the multi-model forecasts (shown by the thick lines) suggest ENSO-neutral conditions will persist from June through the rest of the year. However, the spread of individual model forecasts and overall model skill at these lead times leaves the door open for either El Niño or La Niña conditions by the end of 2011.

 

post #19 of 20
Thread Starter 

60-40 lifts backcountry......

post #20 of 20

 

Quote:

From NOAA:

 

  • How long does a La Niña last?
  • La Niña conditions typically last approximately 9-12 months. Some episodes may persist for as long as two years.

There is no reliability in predicting how long the La Nina will last, only past history which the above quote is based upon.  There have been a few 2-year La Ninas but none (since reliable records began in 1950) have lasted 3 years.  Our spring is the most likely time of year for a La Nina/El Nino to break up.  We're in April and this one is still strong, so my guess is it will last another year.

 

 

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There is very little long term housing up the canyon.   The vast majority will be in suburban Salt Lake and IMHO,  you will need a car.

Agree 100%.

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