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post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

Hi All!

Long time since my last post, but I've got a question for you.

 

I'm skiing on Atomic Coax 183's for the past month or so. I mounted them bootcenter on the "team"-line, 1" back from centerline. This was wrong! I thought it was just me having to adjust to new skiis, but I need to move my bindings back.

Question is how much? The mounting recomendations on the skiis have a line another inch back. My gut tells me I want them even further back but I'm scared that will screw up tree-skiing and groomers for me...

 

Where would you mount them?

This is my only pair of skiis right now. I ski lots of tight trees, tour some, mostly in the alpine and in reality conditions around here have me skiing groomers way more then I like to admit...

 

Oh, and yeah, I tele... rolleyes.gif

 

post #2 of 9

There used to be a line named Classic, where I prefer the bootsole to line up, or even further back. 2.5-3.5cm back from Team works best for me

post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks,

that confirmes what I'm thinking/feeling...

I'll go with 3 cm back from the team line, puts me a little further back then what would be the "classic" position.

 

post #4 of 9

I'm having the same problem with the Atomic Panic twin-tip (173cm). I purchased the ski from REI online. The Panic has three boot center marks, one is marked "center", one is marked "Team", and one has nothing, it's just a line on the ski. REI's online support has not answered my question as to which point is preferred for all-mountain sking. Atomic's online support has not been helpful either. I compared the Panic side-by-side to my Head Mojo Mix (172cm). I went by the "Freeride" mark on the Mojo's and they have been working very well this season for all mountain use. The Freeride mark on the Mojo matches up almost exactly with the "Team" mark on the Panic, so I'm going with that. It would be good if ski manufacturers could be more clear as to what all these terms actually mean. Head's term "Freeride" makes sense, but what the heck is "Team" supposed to mean? I'm waiting for Atomic's online support to explain that one. This is another area where some industry standardization would be a good thing.

post #5 of 9
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Originally Posted by gimmesnow View Post

I'm having the same problem with the Atomic Panic twin-tip (173cm). I purchased the ski from REI online. The Panic has three boot center marks, one is marked "center", one is marked "Team", and one has nothing, it's just a line on the ski. REI's online support has not answered my question as to which point is preferred for all-mountain sking. Atomic's online support has not been helpful either. I compared the Panic side-by-side to my Head Mojo Mix (172cm). I went by the "Freeride" mark on the Mojo's and they have been working very well this season for all mountain use. The Freeride mark on the Mojo matches up almost exactly with the "Team" mark on the Panic, so I'm going with that. It would be good if ski manufacturers could be more clear as to what all these terms actually mean. Head's term "Freeride" makes sense, but what the heck is "Team" supposed to mean? I'm waiting for Atomic's online support to explain that one. This is another area where some industry standardization would be a good thing.


I'd put them on the third line. I mounted mine just behind that, like I said and now they ski like I expect them too...

 

post #6 of 9

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/176106-Atomic-Coax-mounting-point 

 

Check out the above link. There is a photo of Atomic Coax skis with the bindings obviously mounted too far back. Looks like we are not the only skiers having problems figuring out Atomic's wacky mount points.  

 

I got the shop to mount Tyrolia LD-12 bindings on my Atomic Panic at the "Team" mark. The tech agreed that would be the best mounting point for the way I ski and the conditions I do most of my skiing in. I will post a review after I have had the Panic's out on the snow. 

post #7 of 9

Looks like he mounted his boot toe to the line.

post #8 of 9

I got the Panic out on the slopes at Grouse Mountain yesterday. No problem with the mounting of the bindings, everything worked perfectly. Here is my quickie review of the ski:

 

Atomic Panic (173cm) - Sidecut 120/87/110 - Radius 18m - Features include Adaptive Camber, Step-Down Sidewall (tapering to a cap in front and back), Tip Rocker, Full Wood Core. 

 

Me: Male, 6 ft, 175 lb, age 61, intermediate skier.

 

Conditions at Grouse were good, some fresh snow, mostly groomed, around 2 degrees C, snow was wet and heavy with slush in places. This was my first time on a rocker ski. I found the flapping of the long rise tip to be disconcerting, but this was only an issue when running straight and flat on groomed snow. Once you commit to a turn, it feels like the entire length of the ski hooks up to give you a nice, smooth turn. That could be the "Adaptive Camber" at work. Atomic got the flex of the tail just about perfect. There is enough pop coming out of short turns to keep things interesting, but it's not so stiff that you feel locked into the turn. The Panic is very easy to toss around. Compared to the Dynastar Sixth Sense Distorter, another twin-tip with an 87mm waist, I would say the Panic is more lively. Where the Distorter feels stable and sure-footed, the Panic is more active, almost eager. There is a run on Grouse called Paper Trail. It's a narrow run through the trees, with a variety of bumps and rolling terrain. As you enter the run, there is a steep slope about 6 feet high. I normally ski down this to get on to the main part of the run. I didn't think I was carrying that much speed, but as I came on to Paper Trail, the Panic launched me off the top of the slope, or at least that's what it felt like. Fortunately I landed it okay. These skis are deceptively fast. I did Paper Trail faster than ever before. I was getting air off things I would usually just ski over. It normally takes me a few trips to the mountain to get to know a new set of skis, but not with the Panic. I did two runs to warm up, and then it was "pedal to the metal". These things really want to rip. The Atomic Panic is a nice all-round twin tip ski, a welcome addition to my collection.  

 

 

post #9 of 9

Today got Panics and plan to mount tele bulldogs for mainly resort skiing with occasional powder which will be something new for me.

What is the accumulated experience since this tread was stared on the best mounting position for different skiing styles?

 

 

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