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Thread Starter 

Has anyone had a chance to ski on the Atomic made Volant skis? Atomic bought them out a few years ago and I hear that they are only being sold overseas.

post #2 of 16

Any of the Volants that have the color carbon pseudo sidewalls are Atomic built Volants, the previous Colorado Volants had the stainless steel wrap from edge to edge, these are sometimes referred to as "Full Metal Jackets". Atomic did seel them for a while here is the US (along with their other small brand, Dynamic), but have been focusing distribution in Europe.

 

I will say the Atomic Volants had better edges and bases that the prior but they are much more susceptible to bending, for this I refer to Volant as the inventor of the early rise tip. 

post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 

My understanding is that they are selling in Europe for about $3000.00. What have they done to make the ski worth so much more than the $700 to $800 that they were selling for before they stopped marketing in this country?

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I have 2 pair of the Austrian-made.  Gravity 68 & Gravity 71, both in 180, circa early 2000's?  Totally different skis.  The 68's are easy, fun, damp, very turny, quite scary in crud -- they'll take off in directions you never even though about.  The 71's are tanks, big turning, solid, damp, extemely stable, much more work, but will blast through anything without flinching.  One thing I found about the Volants is that they are extremely tune sensitive.  Maybe someone here knows better, but I think at least the old Boulder Volants had a factory tuned recessed edge, vs. beveled (info source: Volant employee).  I know it's very tough around here to get a good aftermarket beveled tune for the Volants.  Too little bevel, extremely grabby, too much, no turn response.  BTW, have skied both pair pretty hard over the years with no bending, although the 71's did come new w/ a tad bit of 'early rise'.  I used to have a pair of older Volant 'Z' somethings, kind of a rec slalom, in 200.  They did end up w/ both skies a bit in splayed in the tips.  Had some of my best powder days ever in knee-deep tight trees with these 'early rockers'.

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Originally Posted by Jim at SSSK View Post

My understanding is that they are selling in Europe for about $3000.00. What have they done to make the ski worth so much more than the $700 to $800 that they were selling for before they stopped marketing in this country?



Boutique marketing.

post #6 of 16

what are the properties of stainless steel for a cap or sandwich construction, or full stainless wrap? I would think it lacks, compared to materials in more universal use, titanium (aluminum alloy in some cases), aluminum and aluminum alloys, but I can't really say that I know that; having skied a friends Volants for one run only; and not enjoyed the weak performance of one of their top models (full stainless wrap).

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Thread Starter 

What I would really like to know is if anyone has skied the current years models. The Volant Silver or the Volant Silver M. I believe that these are the current years European models.

post #8 of 16

the reason you're not getting a flock of responses by skiers that ride the ski is that the ski likely blows, oh, IMO.

post #9 of 16

Davluri

 

Around year 2000 I skied a Volant (demo) in corn snow & loved the spring it had (huge air for transitions) . When I took it out I think it was in good shape. Skied only groomed runs, was going to buy it, (most spring I have ever experienced in a ski) but when I examined it closer the stainless steel side wall had split & starting to delaminate, which I kinda think I did from bending the ski to get pop & G force (no marks on base) Ever since then I have been scared to touch the Volant skis. How can a cape made of stainless steel bend a lot without delaminating ?

post #10 of 16

I have never seen Volants for sale at a store in person, and I have been to many stores...though all on the East coast.

post #11 of 16

 

Since nobody else is talking about the new Volants, I'll join in the discussion on the old Volants.  I got about a dozen days in on my 2002 Volant Machete G (188 cm) this year in all conditions.   The more I ski them the more I like them, but they are not a short turn, steep and tight spot ski, unless you are feeling energetic.  At GS speeds, they come alive and are great fun.  At SG to DH they are a little too lively. 

 

 

 

P.S.  I was bad and tuned the side edge to 2 degrees  (instead of 1 as is proper for a Made in Colorado Volant) and barely marked (you have to look real close to tell) the sidewall in a spot or two, but it had much more grip on ice.  I'll have to go back to 1 degree, but the compound edge might give me more ice grip for a while. 

 

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Jim - the current Silver M model is identical in construction and dimensions to the original Machete Sin AFAIK.  I have many pairs of Sins - mostly all bent.  I have one remaining unbent pair of Sins, Souls, and FBs that I'm saving for special days.  Another pair that ended up with some involuntary early rise are now in my Spring ski quiver (some forumites may remember them - I polished them to a mirror finish).  I actually brought out the mirrored pair this past Friday at the gathering at A-Basin.  They skied surprisingly well in the soft Spring snow.

 

I always loved the feel of Volants, but I think it's just too easy to "kill" them if you're a hard charging type.  Keep in mind that I only ever skied the Machete series that Shane had a hand in developing (Soul, Sin, FB).  Those all had wood cores and were made in Austria under Atomic.  The vintage is 2002 - 2005 I think.

 

You can pick up the Silver M on eBay for a pretty reasonable price.  Or if you want a pair already decked out with early rise (wink.gif) send me a PM and we can work something out.

post #13 of 16
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Noodler,

Thanks for the info. I bent 2 pair of sins a few years back. Great ski. I was hoping that the New high buck Silver was the same ski but with more durability. The season ends today so I will probably wait till next year to see what skis have similar dimensions to the old sins. I have sold all my wider skis due to a little physical problem that limits my width to about 80mm under foot.  I still have an old bent pair of Sins stashed away also.

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Jim - the current Silver M model is identical in construction and dimensions to the original Machete Sin AFAIK.  I have many pairs of Sins - mostly all bent.  I have one remaining unbent pair of Sins, Souls, and FBs that I'm saving for special days.  Another pair that ended up with some involuntary early rise are now in my Spring ski quiver (some forumites may remember them - I polished them to a mirror finish).  I actually brought out the mirrored pair this past Friday at the gathering at A-Basin.  They skied surprisingly well in the soft Spring snow.

 

Yup, saw them laying there on the beach......they are very distinctive and was wondering who owned them.  Had a pair of Sins but let Philpug sell them.....to this day, wish I had them for soft spring conditions.
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FWIW the ones with the silver sidewalls were Genesis Ms

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Replying to an old post out there Jim...but in regards to the old/new Volants, keep the faith.  The 2013/2014 Pulse series do ski and   have the same proclivities as the "old" ones and why wouldn't they - same basic construction and manufacturer - Atomic.  But there's a reason why we all like these shiny things and pick a ski - any ski - and delams and tweaked tips happen to all manufacturers....anyone that says different has their 20 or 30-something dreadlocks in too tight of knots.  Go to "snow&rock.com" and they can export you whatever Volant you fancy although I admit the things a bit more expensive than others - I have ordered several pairs since Volant disappeared in the states.  Keep in mind they have a great integrated binding which evens the price up with other top shelf stuff.  The new Pulse Multi-R runs 1300 euros but the one I'm dying to try is the Colorado which is 700 euros and their updated "machete f/b's" with a lot of carbon on top.

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