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What does "stuff the tips" mean?

post #1 of 11
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Read it somewhere.  Just wondering if the term has several meanings.....

post #2 of 11

Here's a fine example of that technical move.

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post #3 of 11

Here is annother example:

 

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Lol. TDK's skier is a bit more balanced than Slider's. 

 

I believe "stuff the tips" is a slangy term for pushing your skis forward up a mogul prior to pressing the tips down the backside of the mogul. You should feel your feet slide in front of you as you come into the mogul. Your mass will continue to move forward down the mountain--once you're as high up the mogul as you're going, push the tips down the backside.

 

I imagine the wording has to do with stuffing the tips into the mogul... I'm curious about the etymology too!

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Originally Posted by Metaphor_ View Post

Lol. TDK's skier is a bit more balanced than Slider's. 

 

I believe "stuff the tips" is a slangy term for pushing your skis forward up a mogul prior to pressing the tips down the backside of the mogul. You should feel your feet slide in front of you as you come into the mogul. Your mass will continue to move forward down the mountain--once you're as high up the mogul as you're going, push the tips down the backside.

 

I imagine the wording has to do with stuffing the tips into the mogul... I'm curious about the etymology too!

 

Interesting.  I always thought "stuff the tips" referred to going down the backside of a mogul -- i.e., get the tips down and into the next bump trough.  Theoretically the tips hug the snow anyway if you're moving correctly (i.e., your COM moving forwards should cause the tips to drop on their own), but perfect turns are a myth in the bumps, so sometimes you just need to stuff the tips into the trough anyway you can.
 

 

post #6 of 11

I tought stuff the tips was a description for movement patterns that send you tumbling over the bars in 3D snow.

 

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Originally Posted by tromano View Post

I tought stuff the tips was a description for movement patterns that send you tumbling over the bars in 3D snow.

 


I thought it was what you tried for on a 3rd date...

 

post #8 of 11

Stuff the tips used to be something I did once, Attempting a double daffy while skiing moguls and not having enough air to complete the manuver.

 

Of course the results was stuffing the tips in a mogul and suffering a severe faceplantchestpoundingyardsale. Including the ugly sound of the air leaving your lungs.

 

Haven't attempted that since.

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Originally Posted by Lars View Post

Stuff the tips used to be something I did once, Attempting a double daffy while skiing moguls and not having enough air to complete the manuver.

 

Of course the results was stuffing the tips in a mogul and suffering a severe faceplantchestpoundingyardsale. Including the ugly sound of the air leaving your lungs.

 

Haven't attempted that since.


You can deliberately stuff the tips into a mogul with a resulting decrease in speed and increase in bend/curvature/decamber of the tips and resulting effects.

 

You can also unintentionally stuff the tips while trying to turn too tightly after a bit of straight running during your first deep snow day in many years and end up doing the double heel eject, somersault cooling off in the deep snow trick.

 

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LiquidFeet wrote:
Read it somewhere.  Just wondering if the term has several meanings.....

 

It probably does have several meanings, but since I've probably used the term more than any other poster on Epic in the past 2 seasons, I'll bite.

 

I usually use it to describe turning and finishing the turn into/through/over the mogul face when challenging the technical line over the tops of the moguls or turning into any pile when skiing crud on smoother natural terrain. 

 

I'll sometimes refer to finishing the turn by driving the tips into/deflecting off of the mogul sidewall about 18"-24" up from it's lowest point when skiing the zipperline.  This turn doesn't have nearly the speed controlling qualities though, it is probably the fastest way to descend the zipperline, but is very risky.  If to much speed is gained, it is very difficult to dump enough speed and straight lining into a high speed cut out is often the only option.

 

 

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TDK6 wrote:
 
Here is another example.
 
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A picture is worth a 1000 words and this one doesn't disappoint.  icon14.gif

 

Your image really says it all TDK6.  Skiing moguls, not skiing AROUND moguls, exploding weightlessly straight down the fall line, fully committed to sticking the upcoming backside turn, an experience no expert skier should miss. 

 

Once a skier develops the skill to turn into/though/over a mogul, stuffing the tips, the skier now is able to smoothly link their turns and determine their own turning cadence in natural terrain.  The terrain no longer dictates when and where the skier turns, they are "FREE".

 

 

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Metaphor wrote:
Lol. TDK's skier is a bit more balanced than Slider's.

 

I think Slider has "stuffing the tips" and "catching the tips and going over the handlebars" confused.

 

Nice description of "stuffing the tips" btw.  I think it's oversimplified, but basically describes the slangy term well.

 

 

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tromano wrote:
I tought stuff the tips was a description for movement patterns that send you tumbling over the bars in 3D snow.

 

Refer above to Slider's confusion.

 

Stuffing the tips is 1/2 of the sequence, don't underestimate the importance of extending the hips, flexing the knees and opening the ankles to get the ski shovels back on the snow to initiate the backside turn as soon as the feet crest the mogul face.  Now we're skiing moguls instead of being locked into skiing around them.

 

post #11 of 11
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Here's a fine example of that technical move.

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Love this picture , thanks!
 

 

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