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How to address squished left big toe??

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 

Hello Boot Guys,

 

I finally made the right move and sprung for custom footbeds.  The skiing is superb!  The best it has ever been.

 

I got the Le Feet Lab's custom footbeds in Winter Park.  Due to practical reasons I won't go in to, I coulnd't return to the shop before I left town to have them deal with it, so now I'll have to go elsewhere.  BTW, this probably won't be addressed until next fall.

 

Anyway, after the left footbed was installed, my big toe is driven up into the top of the boot (didn't really notice till I started skiing on it).  My toenail is still sore from the compression three days ago.

 

The guy at Le Feet Labs said their custom footbeds can "break" if they are taken in and out.  Therefore, I am only left to shell modifications... should I tell bootfitter to "grind" the top of the toe area?  Anything else that could be done?

 

Also, how fragile are the footbeds really?  Like, can I still remove the liners if I want to change flex?

post #2 of 18

There isn't a footbed made that cannot be taken out, you may need to be carefull but any bootfitter with experience will be able to help you out so you can take them out yourself in the future (for drying on multiple days of skiing). There are several methods to make more toe room which I have listed below but keep in mind trimming your toe nails can also help. There may be other solutions that a bootfitter may use if they see you in person.

 

  1. Grinding or stretching the shell in the toe area as you mentioned
  2. Grinding boot board in the toe to lower the toe area

 

Note: this is not a complete list.

 

Don

post #3 of 18

thinner socks?

make sure your heel is back all the way (tighten ankle buckles)

trim toe nails all the way back

opening the stitching on the liner, right on the pressure point.

stop sitting/skiing in the back seat

 

but yes,   what was said, your footbeds CAN come out, just be careful about it.

 

 

post #4 of 18
Thread Starter 

Well guys, I did consider the toenail thing... and trimmed them up.  Socks are thin already.

 

The squishing is actually noticable/worse when sitting in lodge, walking, and riding the lifts.  When skiing, I don't notice it (but maybe this is due to just focus on the hill/skiing).

 

I don't think I'm skiing in the back seat.  Guys, this is an instant: "okay top of boot is pressing on my toe" immediately when I put my foot in the boot.

 

The toe areas were already snug, now the left one is ridiculous.

 

If I wanted to get custom liners for next year, can I just put my custom footbeds in those, are are they only "trimmed" to fit my insanely-tight HEAD liners?

 

Oh, and if you guys didn't know these are already uncomfortable/tight 135-flex 98-last race boots.

post #5 of 18

Pull insoles out of liner and make sure they are cut to proper length. If you find the toe area of the insoles curls up slightly they will need to be trimmed back. This could make for sore toe.

post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BurgMan View Post

Pull insoles out of liner and make sure they are cut to proper length. If you find the toe area of the insoles curls up slightly they will need to be trimmed back. This could make for sore toe.


Ok will do.  Do to the expensive nature of the footbeds ($135.00), should I have bootfitter do this?  At the place I got them they had this electric laser thing that cut the insoles, rather than scissors.  Will a bootfitter be able to trim them without the special electric laser thing?

 

Also, should I do this before messing with the shell?

post #7 of 18

Have your bootfitter assess the insole and cut it if needed. If you feel confident doing it yourself scissors will work fine.

post #8 of 18

just don't run with the scissors  (listen to your mom)

post #9 of 18
Thread Starter 

will do biggrin.gif

post #10 of 18
Thread Starter 

FEET PHOTO.jpg

 

I pulled out footbeds and put them in my 27 HEAD HF Pro comfort liners (from the Raptor LTD), and squeezed those into my 26 Raptor 125 shells.  It's still not where I'd like it to be. 

 

I felt deep inside the boot with my hand, and the toe area seems to be under a thick piece of plastic and a rubber insert at front of boot, and the toe area is TINY.  I'm not sure if my local shop really knows what they are doing "grinding."

 

I may grind down the bootboard myself with an electric drill.

 

Can that tiny toe pocket inside the shell be "punched out" or will that miss up the DIN? 

post #11 of 18

as others have said thereare a number of things that can be doen...the liner sin your boot are very short stitiched we had an issue with a few pairs last season but mannaged to get round it with a bit of swapping and upgrading of liners form other boots

 

the base board can be sanded down a bit, needs ot be on a flat belt sander ideally so that you get a flat board, not too much either or the foto will fall into the well in the boot and that will cause more problems.....the top of the shell can be ground out and or stretched, we use a boot expander and put the toe block on a ram so that it forces up as well as forward and this can gain a good few mm of space, looking at the picture above you may just need the toe box squared out and up on that corner of the shell.... there is a couple of mm of material can be ground but with care, too much and you will gets some pretty effective air con for your toes, alos checking the footbed length/width for the liner and possibly thinning the forefoot of the footbed will give an extra touch of space

 

good luck getting it sorted

post #12 of 18

your picture tells us a lot. could you take one more from the same perspective, only put your boot shell buckled up next to the matching foot, so we can see the size and dimension of your foot right next to the size and dimension of the boot.

 

jim

post #13 of 18
Thread Starter 

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As you can see the left boot got a nice punch between bottom buckles on lateral side... not so much in right boot.  Nevertheless, those toe areas are very small.

post #14 of 18

opening the stitching on the liner, right on the pressure point might help too

post #15 of 18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by starthaus View Post

your picture tells us a lot.


 

What does the picture tell you?

 

Also, as you see above I took other requested photos.

post #16 of 18

what does it tell me?

 

errm a bit of an ambitious job and is that foot really a 27? looks more like 25 to me, unless you have a huge lower leg/anle masking the instep length. working with a new Lange shell would be a great re start point.smile.gif

post #17 of 18

it also tells me the boot and the carpet are almost the same colour

post #18 of 18
Thread Starter 

I don't think that getting my foot in any 25 would even be possible.  My foot is at least 28 cm long (really like 28.2), and--as is--my toes are having trouble in the 26.5 boots.  Also, I have to use a 27 liner for my 26.5 boots to feel normal.  If I was able to squeeze into a 25 (which I'm not sure how it would be possible), I would have to have a SUPER-WIDE toebox, or it'd never work).

 

 

But thank you for the suggestion on the Langes... if I have the finances next year I'll look into getting a pair of the RS Wide race series.

 

 

 

(I know the one picture is no good... the other picture on lighter carpeting can show the width aspect, but doesn't show length as my heel was not exactly lined up with the back of the boot).  I don't know if you saw the dimensions on the first picture (showing length).  I wear 10.5 street shoes.  I've heard of downsizing two shells, but never three.

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