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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

I need some help deciding on some new skis for next year (looking to find an end of year deal). I'm 25, 5'10" about 180. Level 9 skier. East coast 9 anyways (never been out west).

 

I grew up skiing bumps, for awhile basically skied bumps exclusively. Got out of skiing for few years (grad school/lack of $). My body can't handle that kind of skiing all the time any more so I need something different when I'm out of the bumps. I pretty much ski hard and fast, mostly long turns due to my straight bump skis. Looking for something that will handle East Coast conditions well; groomers, ice, crud, etc. I'd like something that can make the longer high speed turns and be stable, but still be responsive to make some quick/shorter turns as conditions dictate without having to really work hard like I do now (does this ski even exist? A unicorn?). I could careless how these skis handle in the bumps, I'm sure I'll venture into a mogul field with them but if I'm really gonna ski bumps I'll break out my other skis. I would like to make it out West sometime in the next year or two and will be taking these skis with me.

 

So far I'm looking at Atomic Blackeye Ti, Salomon XW Enduro, K2 Charger and the Volkl AC30. I'd say right now I'm leaning towards the Atomics, but don't really know why. Don't really have any time left around here to demo skis. I'm open to other suggestions you might have. Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks for the help.

post #2 of 11

Blizzard Magnum 8.1.

Dynastar Contact 4x4.

Both narrower than others on your list, but great eastern skis.  And I think the Dynastar is being phased out, so may be deals.

 

And.......I guarantee you that someone will recommend a Kastle ski.....

post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 

I did look at the Contact 4x4's, forgot to add em to the list.

 

Definitely want a ski that can handle higher speeds and longer turns but still be able to make quick/short turns on the steeps.

post #4 of 11

AFAIC:  that's the 4x4. 

YMMV.

post #5 of 11
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And.......I guarantee you that someone will recommend a Kastle ski.....


MX78
 

 

post #6 of 11

+1

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Originally Posted by tch View Post

Blizzard Magnum 8.1.


 

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MX78
 

 



 

post #7 of 11

These 4 all have no speed limit for the places you'll ski, hard to go wrong with any of 'em, none will be cheap. But for the east, I'd order them like this:

 

Blizzard G-Power +3  (Best grip by far - close to race ski - light but smooth, most sophisticated engineering and binding, good for crud up to mid-boot but not a bulldozer)

Blizzard 8.1 +2 (Second best grip, light and lively, lot of snowfeel, second most sophisticated engineering of the bunch, second best in tight places, tie with Kastle as best for actual powder)

Kastle MX78 +1 (Most refined and smoothest, easiest initiation, hiccup lower grip than Blizzards, second best in heavier crud and chop, easy in real pow, likes space to run)

Contact 4x4 +1 (Most versatile shape for variable snow, beefiest, best in heavy crud and chop, nearly as smooth as Kastle, comparable grip, least happy doing sudden maneuvers, likes space to run, closest to a traditional damp rec race ski feel)

 

post #8 of 11

I'd just switch 8.1 and MX78, but that's about how I'd put it too
 

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These 4 all have no speed limit for the places you'll ski, hard to go wrong with any of 'em, none will be cheap. But for the east, I'd order them like this:

 

Blizzard G-Power +3  (Best grip by far - close to race ski - light but smooth, most sophisticated engineering and binding, good for crud up to mid-boot but not a bulldozer)

Blizzard 8.1 +2 (Second best grip, light and lively, lot of snowfeel, second most sophisticated engineering of the bunch, second best in tight places, tie with Kastle as best for actual powder)

Kastle MX78 +1 (Most refined and smoothest, easiest initiation, hiccup lower grip than Blizzards, second best in heavier crud and chop, easy in real pow, likes space to run)

Contact 4x4 +1 (Most versatile shape for variable snow, beefiest, best in heavy crud and chop, nearly as smooth as Kastle, comparable grip, least happy doing sudden maneuvers, likes space to run, closest to a traditional damp rec race ski feel)

 



 

post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 

All great info.  I'd say the Dynastars and Kastles are out based beyonds comments that they like space to run/don't like sudden maneuvers.  I'd rather have to work a little for longer turns than short quick ones. 

 

How would the Blizzard 8.1 stack up with the Blackeye Ti, AC30, Enduro or Charger?

post #10 of 11

Don;t forget the Nordicas - HR Pro Burner, nice

I just had a day at Mt Baldy (SoCal)  was brutal hard surface for about 2 hrs in the AM - from re-frozen corn.

Mt Baldy has lots of steep pitches which were either deep (6 inches deep...) corn/mush or tight bumps with hard tops...

All Sun facing runs  softened gradually til it was corn and mush in the afternoon. Stuff in the shady side stayed harder.

Edge hold was tenacious and predictable on the morning hard stuff. Quick edge to edge if I drove thru and finished the turn with some energy. Easy goin if I eased off the angulation. This would definitely be my ski iff'n I was havin a hard surface day at MRG (as I remember it...).

Plowed thru the deep mush/corn reasonably - not like my Fischer Cold Heats - but made up for it by being way more manageable in tight bumps.

178's were good, enough length to rock some speed, but plenty manageable iff'n I wanted to pick my way around the rocks pokin out in spots.

I hear the Fire Arrow is as good a ski as it is ugly... and its plenty ugly... seems like good theft insurance...

post #11 of 11

Suggest you read dawgcatching's reviews of some 2011 sub-80mm skis that are worth considering.

 

 http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/99620/2011-sub-80mm-skis-from-fischer-dynastar-kastle-blizzard-head-nordica-stockli-elan

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