I think the "edit" button that lets you modify a post you created, even after you posted it, is a great idea. But what do you do if you somehow post something and then want to delete it completely (because, say, you posted it in the wrong forum etc.)? The best I could think of was to edit it and remove all the content, but this still leaves an empty posting behind. Would it be a good idea to have a "delete" button as well as an "edit" button?
Deleting a new post you accidentally created?
Last I heard, users can't remove a post completely. You can flag it and ask a moderator to do so though. Rather than going to all that trouble, I usually just add two cents (or 2 more cents) to the thread I inadvertently posted in. How the hell do you think I already have almost 15,000 posts on EpicSki?
I don't have a problem with giving members a delete key. I think there was some concern about losing content, but anything deleted can be undeleted if we're inclined. So, not sure what the down-side is.
We have an Advisory Planning Group where the members discuss this kind of feedback and help us make decisions to improve the site. This might be a good topic for that group. A new panel is being organized now, and will convene in the next week or so. Charles, I think you are part of that. Be sure to bring it up.
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It should be that users can only delete their own posting, of course. And maybe also, they can only delete it if it's still the last posting in the thread? That should be pretty safe, and still allow mistakes to be corrected. Although, since we let users edit their own posts, they could remove all the content anyway, so I'm not sure that allowing deletion would be any more dangerous than what we already have. To prevent accidental deletion, it should ask a question like "You are about to delete this entire posting. Are you sure you want to do this." And perhaps, "Warning: There have been responses in this thread after your posting appeared. They may refer to your posting. Are you sure you still want to delete it?"
I think it will work pretty much that way. We have requested limiting editing time, but it is not implemented yet. Even if you make a mistake deleting something, moderators have the power of recovery. Just ask. I know the forum glitches sometimes and causes a double post. Some of us don't need to pad our post count, sooooo.
Edited by Cirquerider - 4/20/11 at 2:50pm
Almost. Normally I wouldn't copy bits of conversation out of the Advisory group, but there is nothing sensitive about this, and I think it is representative of the forum at large. The conversation has been kind of like this:
Deleting a post without leaving a trace will be disruptive. I agree with the self-moderation value for post editing; giving people a recourse from embarrassing themselves is a very good idea. Not being able to delete the post completely has some moderating value as well; there is always some trace left, so you are not going to be a total jerk and then just vanish...
I am trying to imagine when I would want to delete my post completely, and I cannot come up with any scenario other than a duplicate post. I think deleting posts should be left to moderators.
Also, I dont think that the ability to delete post will entice people to subscribe (and if it entices certain people who often feel a need to retract what they said on the forum, I don't think Epic necessarily wants those people).
I like to have the ability to edit a post, it makes writing reviews easier, and sometimes helps to clarify things without generating an additional post.
yeah, this is exactly what I am referring to. We could have a few default messages the user can select
"poster has deleted their post due to the realization that the 6 pack they drank last night made them a raging asshole....."
Poster realizes they no nothing about the subject and has decided wisely to delete their innane comment
Poster has finally figured out that they shouldn't post in helmet threads.....
As far as dying in committee I think the issue was seriously looked at and didn't get much traction. The easiest solution to the scenario asked here is to use the post report flag. We will delete the reported post when we see the request on the moderation queue, and this happens fairly often. Using the edit function, the thread can be left empty, or with a brief "duplicate' or deleted comment.
Editing takes too long - from the search page clicking on Edit means the thread has to load, the editor window has to load, 3 characters have to be typed, and resubmitted.
That is 3 loading delays (and char entry) in addition to the original click per "delete", do you really want to bog down the database like that?
Editing also fails to update the "go to last post" pointers.
Edited by comprex - 4/19/11 at 5:38pm
What on earth are you doing? It looks like you are systematically going back and deleting your previous posts. The problem with this is by proving a need to protect the integrity of threads and the content on the site, you will force us to limit editing for legitimate purposes. Stop it.