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Carve Plate 13 SLR

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

Does anyone know if the Head Free Flex Plus 11 Ski Binding 

will fit the Tyrolia Carve Plate 13 SLR?

Does it have the same mounting pattern as the Free Flex Pro 11

which is listed as a binding that fits.

Thanks 

mondo

 
post #2 of 17

Yes. Will fit. Head = Tyrolia = Fischer = Elan = 4Frnt (and probably a couple more too).

post #3 of 17

Actually, it may not if it is pre-drilled  for both heel and toe pieces. The reason why I say this is that the bolt patterns are the same but with the freeflex 11 in order to get the screw to latch on in the middle,you will see that the holes will not line up. Hard to understand if you do not have both binding and ski in front of you.  PM me if you want and I can explain it in further detail.  Dave

post #4 of 17
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Originally Posted by Daveski7 View Post

Actually, it may not if it is pre-drilled  for both heel and toe pieces. The reason why I say this is that the bolt patterns are the same but with the freeflex 11 in order to get the screw to latch on in the middle,you will see that the holes will not line up. Hard to understand if you do not have both binding and ski in front of you.  PM me if you want and I can explain it in further detail.  Dave



They may line up a bit short, but surely you just need to pull on the toepiece, pretensioning the freeflex spring mechanism, until the holes line up and you can drive the screws.

 

Correct order of mounting is 1) heel screws, 2) freeflex band attachment, 3) toe screws

 

The basic Tyrolia 92 jig provides exacly the same holes as the CP13, SP13 and all the other Head/Tyrolia/Fischer CarvePlates... and the pattern/length has been unchanged for aeons.

 

post #5 of 17

Correct me if I am wrong, once you pull on the toe piece than the holes will not line up because the opening between toe and heel will be longer. Hence, when using Tyrolia jig you put in boot and then expand jig and then have to adjust heel of binding for forward pressure.Am I off base or does this make sense.

post #6 of 17

If this carve plate has accomodated for this adjustment,please disregard my post. Sorry.

post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 

Now I am really confused, If the holes line up there must be some adjustment after the bindings are mounted. 

By the way they are predrilled for the font and back. There are 48 pre drilled holes in each plate. Thanks

mondo

post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by Daveski7 View Post

Correct me if I am wrong, once you pull on the toe piece than the holes will not line up because the opening between toe and heel will be longer. Hence, when using Tyrolia jig you put in boot and then expand jig and then have to adjust heel of binding for forward pressure.Am I off base or does this make sense.



The carve plate has holes that match all the positions on the 92(W) jig when the jig is in freeflex mode - i.e. 1 cm increments rather than exact BSL.

 

When the heel is mounted and the freeflex band is installed, the holes in the toepiece come up a little short compared to the holes in the carve plate. Pulling on the toepice stretches out the freeflex spring a bit and lines up the holes.

post #9 of 17

Here to bring some sanity back into this thread...

 

mondo - You're good to go with your bindings and plates.

 

Squawker - You're out of date.  Tyrolia/Head have changed the bindings and the plates in the past 2 seasons.  You can end up with incompatible bindings and plates and the plate screw patterns have changed.  So nix on your comment about things not having changed for "aeons" [sic].

 

Daveski7 - The proper mounting procedure for a Freeflex model includes turning the center screw counter-clockwise to release the band/spring tension before mounting.  Once this is done the distance between the toe and heel is easily adjustable by about 5mm (even when they're positioned and snapped into the band).  This adjustment "room" allows the binding to perfectly match up with the plate holes.  Once the bindings are screwed into the ski (or plate) then you tighten the center screw.

 

 

post #10 of 17

Noodler, thanks for that info, very helpful. Thought that binding was fixed in that position once center screw was in place. I have one right now in my hand and I see what you mean. You learn something new each day.  Thanks again.    Dave.      On another note,Mondo, PM me and let me know how much they are going for.   

post #11 of 17


 

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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post


Squawker - You're out of date.  Tyrolia/Head have changed the bindings and the plates in the past 2 seasons.  You can end up with incompatible bindings and plates and the plate screw patterns have changed.  So nix on your comment about things not having changed for "aeons" [sic].

 

 

Is that correct?  Have the mounting points for the freeflex bindings changed?  Which models?
 

 

post #12 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks Noodler,

Very much.

Are the free flex plus just an older version of the free flex pro?

mondo

post #13 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noodler View Post

Here to bring some sanity back into this thread...

 

mondo - You're good to go with your bindings and plates.

 

Squawker - You're out of date.  Tyrolia/Head have changed the bindings and the plates in the past 2 seasons.  You can end up with incompatible bindings and plates and the plate screw patterns have changed.  So nix on your comment about things not having changed for "aeons" [sic].

 

Daveski7 - The proper mounting procedure for a Freeflex model includes turning the center screw counter-clockwise to release the band/spring tension before mounting.  Once this is done the distance between the toe and heel is easily adjustable by about 5mm (even when they're positioned and snapped into the band).  This adjustment "room" allows the binding to perfectly match up with the plate holes.  Once the bindings are screwed into the ski (or plate) then you tighten the center screw.

 

 

 

Re: screw pattern chaning.... the screw pattern for the plate itself used to be regular Tyrolia i.e. you could mount the plates with the 92 jig set to 23cm.

I know that has changed in the last couple of years, but I find it extremely hard to believe that the screw pattern of Freeflex/Peak/Mojo/LD etc. has changed.

In fact, here's the compatibility list for the 92W jig, from the 2010/11 tech manual to prove I'm not talking rubbish.

 

HEAD


CURRENT LINE 10.11
FREEFLEX PRO 18 X Sale, FREEFLEX PRO 16, FREEFLEX PRO 14, FREEFLEX PRO 1 1, MOJO 18 X, MOJO 15, MOJO 12,
MOJO 11, MOJO 7.5, LD 12 WIDE 88, SL 100, SL 90 ABS JR RACE, SL 75

 

EARLIER LINES
FREEFLEX PRO 16, FREEFLEX PRO 14, FREEFLEX PRO 12, FREEFLEX PRO 1 1 LD, FREEFLEX PLUS 17, FREEFLEX PLUS 11,
LD 12 CYBER, MOJO 20 X, MOJO 18 X, MOJO 15, MOJO 12, MOJO 1 1, MOJO 7.5, LD 12, SL 1 10 ABS, ONE LD 12,
GOLD THANG 12 LD, ONE SL 90, SL 75 ABS, SL 70 AC

 

TYROLIA


CURRENT LINE 10.11
FREEFLEX PRO 17, FREEFLEX PRO 14, FREEFLEX PRO 11, PEAK 18 X T. H., PEAK 15 T. H., PEAK 15, PEAK 12, PEAK 1 1,
PEAK 7.0 AC, LD 12, SL 100, SL 70 AC


EARLIER LINES
FREEFLEX PRO 18 X, FREEFLEX PRO 15, FREEFLEX PLUS 18 X, FREEFLEX PLUS 15 X, FREEFLEX PLUS 10 X, FREEFLEX PLUS 8 X,
FREEFLEX PLUS 17, FREEFLEX PLUS 15, FREEFLEX PLUS 14, FREEFLEX PLUS 11, FREEFLEX PLUS 10, FREEFLEX PLUS 8,
FREEFLEX PLUS 8 LD, FREEFLEX PLUS 7, MAD FLEX 9, PEAK 18 X, PEAK 15, PEAK 12, PEAK 1 1, SLD 1 1 ABS, LD 12 CYBER,
LD 12 S, LD 10, CYBER CARBON D 9 SX, CYBER CARBON D 9, CYBER D 8 SX, CYBER SL 110, CYBER D 9, CYBER D 8, CYBER 8,
CYBER 7, CYBER 6, CYBER 4, CYBER FREEFLEX, MOJO 20 (X), MOJO 15, MOJO 11, MOJO 7, POWER SELECT FREERIDE 9,
POWER SELECT FREERIDE 8, POWER SELECT FREERIDE SL 110, POWER SELECT 9, POWER SELECT 9 RENT, POWER SELECT 8,
POWER SELECT 8 RENT, POWER SELECT 8 RENT DEMO, SL 110 CARVE ABS, SL 110 ABS, SL 110 S ABS, SL 100 CARVE ABS,
SL 100 ABS, SL 100 CARVE, SLW 90 ABS, SL 75, SL 70 ABS, SL 70 CARVE ABS, SL 70, TD 9 T, TD 8 TS, TD 8, T 7, T 6.5, T 6,
T 5.6i, T 5.6, T 5, FREEFLEX 9 WORLD CUP, FREEFLEX 9 RACING, FREEFLEX 8 RACING, FREEFLEX 9 T, CARVE FLEX 6,
CARVE FLEX 4, SYMRENT 4, FREEFLEX JUNIOR RACE 11, T 6

 

TYROLIA INSIDE

 

LINE 10.11
4FRNT: DEADBOLT 18, DEADBOLT 18 LTD, DEADBOLT 15, DEADBOLT 15 LTD, DEADBOLT 13, DEADBOLT 13 LTD, DEADBOLT 11,

PADLOCK 11, PADLOCK 7 JUNIOR
AMPLID: AMPLID ONE 8, AMPLID FTF, AMPLID DZN
PALMER: PALMER 12
 

Edit for forum decorum - apologies for rising to the bait.

 


Edited by Squawker - 3/28/11 at 2:55am
post #14 of 17

Noodler, are you still sticking to the fact that a Freeflex Pro 11 will work on the plate that Mondo has mentioned?

post #15 of 17

Hey guys,PM each other with bashing each other, someone is looking for help for a purchase.Put the attitudes aside,isn't that what this site is really supposed to be about?!

post #16 of 17

Daveski is correct.  The moderation team has deleted the posts that violate our Rules of Conduct for posting.  These rules have been recently revised, and all members are encouraged to read.  Very simply, show respect for other members and our community.  Its fine to disagree with a statement, but simply insulting the other poster without arguing your point will get the post deleted every time. 

 

Do not respond to trolls and attacks.  Use the post report button so the moderation team can remove this kind of thing before it pulls the thread off-topic into a personal argument. 

 

Do not reply to this post.  Carry on with the thread, and PM me if you have questions.

post #17 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks to everyone for there help. I have a pair of free flex pro 11's on there way and will let everyone know how i make out.

mondo

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