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post #1 of 16
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What do you want from a ski report? My staff members are in charge of our area ski report. They do the radio spots, fill in the website information and prepare and record the phone message and update it through the day.

 

1. Do you prefer a set of numbers for new snowfall taken from a mid-mountain snow study plot or are you more interested in how things are skiing? (Please discuss if you have opinions)

 

2. Often we are said to be under-reporting new snow because our mid-mountain snow study plot shows a smaller number than what is actually wind loaded into areas that are 1000 vert. feet higher and lee slopes. Is using a set number like (we received 2.6" new snow) instead of something like we received 2-5" new snow in favored areas more to your liking? (Please discuss if you have opinions)

 

3. We do our initial reports at 5:30 am and then are busy with a/c work and cannot get a full update until after 9:30 or 10:00. How important is a 7:30/8:00 update to you when it comes to making a go/no go skiing decision? (Please discuss if you have opinions)

 

4. Do you Twitter and would Twitter updates be something you would use? (Please discuss if you have opinions) In all I am very pleased with what my folks have been producing and it has the added benefit of reducing missed forecasts as one of them is into the office most every day at 4:00-5:00. We are trying to iron out the above difficulties and any input would be appreciated. Thanks

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Originally Posted by bunion View Post

What do you want from a ski report? My staff members are in charge of our area ski report. They do the radio spots, fill in the website information and prepare and record the phone message and update it through the day.

 

1. Do you prefer a set of numbers for new snowfall taken from a mid-mountain snow study plot or are you more interested in how things are skiing? (Please discuss if you have opinions)

 

I like to know total new snowfall for the previous 12 and 24 hours AND how things are skiing.  I like to know wind speeds, current temp., expected high temp., and water content of the snow.

 

2. Often we are said to be under-reporting new snow because our mid-mountain snow study plot shows a smaller number than what is actually wind loaded into areas that are 1000 vert. feet higher and lee slopes. Is using a set number like (we received 2.6" new snow) instead of something like we received 2-5" new snow in favored areas more to your liking? (Please discuss if you have opinions)

 

I am fine with a set number such as, "12" at the snow stake."  Regulars will eventually be able to interpret what it means at different parts of the resort.  Visitors will be out there regardless of the number.

 

3. We do our initial reports at 5:30 am and then are busy with a/c work and cannot get a full update until after 9:30 or 10:00. How important is a 7:30/8:00 update to you when it comes to making a go/no go skiing decision? (Please discuss if you have opinions)

 

9:30 is too late because I will already be up skiing or off doing something else.  6:00am works for me because it gives me enough time to get ready and head up by 8:00am for a 9:00am opening.

 

4. Do you Twitter and would Twitter updates be something you would use? (Please discuss if you have opinions) In all I am very pleased with what my folks have been producing and it has the added benefit of reducing missed forecasts as one of them is into the office most every day at 4:00-5:00. We are trying to iron out the above difficulties and any input would be appreciated. Thanks

 

No Twatter for me.



 


Edited by Toecutter - 3/24/11 at 3:35pm
post #3 of 16

I like to know the weather conditions...temp., wind, and predicted weather for the day.  In addition, how much snow has fallen in the past 24 hours as well as since the lifts closed the day before.  I prefer a 7 - 7:30 am report as it is closer to time for the lifts to open.

post #4 of 16

Snowfall since the lifts closed is more important to me than 24 hour total.  I really like the Snowstake Cam at Copper!  It allows you to see what's happened and when.

 

Mike

post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by bunion View Post

What do you want from a ski report? My staff members are in charge of our area ski report. They do the radio spots, fill in the website information and prepare and record the phone message and update it through the day.

 

1. Do you prefer a set of numbers for new snowfall taken from a mid-mountain snow study plot or are you more interested in how things are skiing? (Please discuss if you have opinions)

 

2. Often we are said to be under-reporting new snow because our mid-mountain snow study plot shows a smaller number than what is actually wind loaded into areas that are 1000 vert. feet higher and lee slopes. Is using a set number like (we received 2.6" new snow) instead of something like we received 2-5" new snow in favored areas more to your liking? (Please discuss if you have opinions)

 

3. We do our initial reports at 5:30 am and then are busy with a/c work and cannot get a full update until after 9:30 or 10:00. How important is a 7:30/8:00 update to you when it comes to making a go/no go skiing decision? (Please discuss if you have opinions)

 

4. Do you Twitter and would Twitter updates be something you would use? (Please discuss if you have opinions) In all I am very pleased with what my folks have been producing and it has the added benefit of reducing missed forecasts as one of them is into the office most every day at 4:00-5:00. We are trying to iron out the above difficulties and any input would be appreciated. Thanks


1. Both amount and conditions.  And I want both previous 24 hr snowfall as well as previous 12 hr, overnight, whatever you want to call it.

2. I've seen some areas use 2 data points.  Snowfall at the base, and snowfall at the summit.  If you get substantially different amounts due to a large vertical, that can be helpful.  Otherwise, just one number works fine for me, I know there will be variances.  Don't worry about how much is on wind loaded slopes, as was said, that's something people will figure out.

3. A 7:30 or 8 report is too late for me, I'm already on the road.  It depends on far away the majority of your crowd is coming from, as to whether that would be useful at all.

4. No twitter for me, I'd rather just pull up your website on my phone.  On a ski morning, that's what I do immediately after turning the alarm clock off, before I even get out of bed.

 

post #6 of 16

wind speed, direction, snowfall amounts: on road elevation, base, mid, summit.  Expected winds, sunny partly, HUMIDITY, barometric pressure, temp, expected temps.

 

Humidity tells me alot about how snow fell and how to plan movement around mountain along with temps.  And this all helps how to dress. 

 

If alot of wind during night good to know...but was it windy during storm or just after storm? Is snow wet? can I get there? 

 

All of this helps to varying degrees depending on where I am coming from.  If I am driving all night across the plain and want to ski the morn beforee I check in and crash I am looking to be as efficient as possible.  which base layer, Jacket liner or not, sunglasses or gogs, you know.

 

If Im driving say colorado to utah, a little different as I can see what conditions are like but still a little accurate forecast is invaluable.  Youknow when you are driving in, the radio tends to tell the weather that will be in the cities....Denver, salt lake adn it is always diff at the mountain.

 

I think alot of times the resorts forget about us who drive in from all around. 

 

I like to drive cus then I have my own rig and if I am going colorado then I can easily drive the Interstate 70 resorts Loveland through Aspen stopping at each place in heaven along the way. Information is the key.

post #7 of 16

Wow.  Some of you want some detailed information!  All I need to know is some kind of basic temperature range (i.e., a polar bear wouldn't head outside, it's really freaking cold, really cold, cold, nice, or spring-ish) and whether or not the wind will be blowing hard enough to effect lift operations

post #8 of 16

Give me a decent weather forecast, snowfall in the last 24-48 hours, current surface conditions, and give it to me early, please. 7-7:30 is great for anyone already there, but not us day skiers. Living in NYC, I'm 2 hours away from anywhere decent, and on mid-season weekends, I need to be out the door by 6:30 to beat the crowds.

 

post #9 of 16

...and furthermore, do people actually still listen to radio???  I look for my ski report electronically.

 

post #10 of 16

I want snow reports to go back to the "12 Hour Snowfall" format.  It seems more and more resorts are reporting in 24 Hour increments, as if I somehow care about the snow that got all skied out yesterday.  All I care about is what fell since they closed.

 

And do the report at 5:30 AM for those of us that have to drive a long way to the mountain.

post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by FujativeOCR View Post

I want snow reports to go back to the "12 Hour Snowfall" format.  It seems more and more resorts are reporting in 24 Hour increments, as if I somehow care about the snow that got all skied out yesterday.  All I care about is what fell since they closed.

 

And do the report at 5:30 AM for those of us that have to drive a long way to the mountain.



I agree. I hate 24-hour totals. I like when resorts report at 5 and 5.

post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by garylk View Post

Give me a decent weather forecast, snowfall in the last 24-48 hours, current surface conditions, and give it to me early, please. 7-7:30 is great for anyone already there, but not us day skiers.... I'm 2 hours away from anywhere decent, and on mid-season weekends, I need to be out the door by 6:30 to beat the crowds.

 


+1

by 6 am, pls

road conditions on the primary access road.

expected operating conditions, as to expected open lift service

any expected holds due to wind/weather

surface conditions and important prior weather, like snow in recent 24 hrs or rain .... ;-) 

current and expected temps at base and summit

 

I dont twitter, but try to check online...

 

local area AM radio?

I'm in SOCal and for the fun of it I tuned to the local AM station - funny stuff !!! it was about 2 months old...

'radio' is the current 'newsprint'.... & kook broadcasts for the clapon/clapoff crowd

post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by KevinF View Post

Wow.  Some of you want some detailed information!  All I need to know is some kind of basic temperature range (i.e., a polar bear wouldn't head outside, it's really freaking cold, really cold, cold, nice, or spring-ish) and whether or not the wind will be blowing hard enough to effect lift operations


 

Okay, my bare minimum info would be expected high temp. (so I know how to dress and wax) and 12 hour snowfall (so I know what equipment to bring).   I can go with the flow for the rest.

post #14 of 16

12 hour snowfall. I can get the weather from NOAA, and there's nothing else I really need.

 

On the other hand, I'm going to be going to the mtn anyway, so skip the snowfall also.

post #15 of 16


+1, I would also like to know current temps and winid speed at base and at summit.   For a large resort, Steamboat has one of the worst reporting systems going. 
 

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Originally Posted by habacomike View Post

Snowfall since the lifts closed is more important to me than 24 hour total.  I really like the Snowstake Cam at Copper!  It allows you to see what's happened and when.

 

Mike



 

post #16 of 16

1 & 2  Mid mtn totals fine, Top good too if possible, Current temps, expected max, Current Winds, max winds forecast, Expected wind/weather closures, closed areas previous day(s).

 

3:  Previous 12 & 24, 48 hour totals, Especially 12 hour totals as others have stressed.  Early is ideal - 5.30-6 am, 9 am update good too.

4:  Twits - don't care.

 

I had a recent road tripping ski holiday and I was surprised by the lack of recent snowfall info available - 12 hour totals.  I was generally looking for info at night to see whether forecast snow happened during day so as to figure where to go next day.  It was frustrating that most info was from 5am that day, thus no info on previous 14-16 hours. 

 

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