EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › General Skiing Discussion › Newbie here that needs some recommendations...long
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Newbie here that needs some recommendations...long

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

I have been skiing on 168 Volkl Six Starsfor the last five years or so.  I was skiing at Jay Peak two weekends ago when I encountered a problem.  Towards the end of the second day I was popping out of the bindings a lot easier than I should have been.  I assumed it was a binder issue but come to find out it wasn't.  A portion of the rail that the binding slides into ripped out of the ski.  On one of the skis a piece of the rail actually broke off when I removed the bindings.  I sent them to Volkl but there isn't anything they can do. Needless to say the Six Stars are deceased. 

 

So now I am looking for new skis at the time of year when "demo days" are none existent.  I am planning on going to Stratton, VT this Sunday.  Then I am going to Sugarloaf for Reggae Fest in mid April.  I am trying to decide if I should just buy a pair of skis now or just rent for the rest of this year and wait to demo skis next season before I buy.  I found a shop new Stratton that still has demos left but it cost $60 a day!  If I rent this Sunday and 3 days at Sugarloaf I am going to spend over $200 just in rental fees.  I guess I don't have much of a choice at this point unless a just buy a pair without trying them.  I would rather not do that but I might just because it costs so much to rent performance skis.   

 

Anyway, I live in RI and mostly make day trips to VT.  I consider myself to be an advanced skier but not an expert.  I am 34 years old, weigh @195 and am 5'10".  Lately I have been mostly skiing woods and bumps.  I mainly only ski groomers to get back to the lift.  The Six Stars where incredible on the hard pack and groomers at high speeds but they were a handful in the bumps and in the woods especially when there was fresh powder. 

 

I am looking for something that is better in the bumps and woods but can still handle well enough on the hard pack and groomers.  I only get to ski @5-10 times a year so I need one ski that can do it all.  I know next to nothing about current model skis.  I've been reading reviews here for the past few days and my head is starting to hurt.  I have somewhat narrowed my search down to an all mountain ski like the Line Prophet 90, Volkl Kendo/Mantra or the AC30s.  There are so many skis available nowadays that it is almost overwhelming. 

 

I am looking for a shop around Stratton that still has demos left to try.  I found one that has AC30s but after reading reviews here the past few days I am wondering if I should try something else instead. 

 

What do you guys recommend? 

 

 

post #2 of 14

I recently skied the Volkl Bridge out west in trees, push piles, hardened crud, and hardpack.  I was blown away at how easily they skied trees and powder and bumps, and pleasantly surprised at how well they carved on western hardpack (which was not true eastern ice, but pretty hard nonetheless).  I'm a convert to wider, even twin-tip, skis.  If you were going to stick to groomers, I'd still recommend a narrowish carver in the east, but for your announced desires, I'd think about the Line 90, the Bridge, the Blizzard One, or perhaps the Kendo. 
AC 30 is going to be less tree/bump/crud friendly.

 

My $0.02.

post #3 of 14

Many shops will give you the cost of renting if you make a subsequent purchase.

post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thank you for the fast response tch! 

 

I was thinking the AC30 would be too similar to the Six Stars.  They have a very similar design.  A few people at my local shop recommended the AC30s but a few others recommended I try the Bridge.  Since I want a ski that will work well in the bumps and woods I am leaning more towards the Bridge or similar ski.  To be honest the Bridge might be a great ski but I can't get over the looks of it.  I would never buy a ski based just on looks but the Bridge might be ugly enough to make me not buy it. LOL 

 

After reading so many positive things about the Kendo and Prophet 90 and I am leaning in that direction. 

 

post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kneale Brownson View Post

Many shops will give you the cost of renting if you make a subsequent purchase.



That is true. 

 

post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 

What length would you recommend I try?  From what I've read so far it appears I should try something longer than the 168 Six Stars with all mountain and twin tip skis.

post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 

Anyone else have any recommendations?  What size would you recommend as well? 

post #8 of 14

What were the 6 Stars underfoot?

 

The Jay demo shop still has some skis available, as did Sunday River a week or two ago.  I know you aren't planning on going there, but it may be worth a day trip to try some stuff out.

 

I've been looking to replace my Crimson Ti's (169) for a while now and I'm a bit taller and a bit (quite a bit) heavier than you.  I've been seriously considering a bunch of stuff, but mostly in the 90+ underfoot and in the high 170/low 180 range.  Think Line Prophet 90/100, Rossi S3, DPS Wailer 95 or 105.  

 

Personally, I'm waiting until I can get on something with some (at least tip) rocker.  I spent most of my time in the trees and bouncing through the moguls - I tend to use groomers to warm up and get myself back to the lift.  

 

If I found a pair of S3s in the 186 for under $300 (someone would have to be out of their mind...) I would likely buy them without a demo.  Otherwise, I'd have to get on something and try it.  

 

There are some great deals in the marketplace section here and AlpineZone...

post #9 of 14

A poster on here (DoWork) is selling a pair of 176 Mojo 90s on TGR for $200 with Mojo 11 bindings.  You might have to remount depending on your BSL, but if you want to pick up a not so expensive ski to get through the rest of this season on the cheap and feel what something a bit wider under foot is like, it might be just right for you.  I have skied the 186 (I'm 6'2) about 90% of days this season and have been really happy with it in similar conditions to what you say you ski most of the time.  No rocker and it's reasonably stiff so it doesn't float in powder like some skis, but it works fine while still having pretty darn good performance in firmer conditions.

 

Edit: And DoWork will likely be in S.VT this weekend if you wanted to arrange a sale, though I'm not certain of that.

post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcusBrody View Post

A poster on here (DoWork) is selling a pair of 176 Mojo 90s on TGR for $200 with Mojo 11 bindings.  You might have to remount depending on your BSL, but if you want to pick up a not so expensive ski to get through the rest of this season on the cheap and feel what something a bit wider under foot is like, it might be just right for you.  I have skied the 186 (I'm 6'2) about 90% of days this season and have been really happy with it in similar conditions to what you say you ski most of the time.  No rocker and it's reasonably stiff so it doesn't float in powder like some skis, but it works fine while still having pretty darn good performance in firmer conditions.

 

Edit: And DoWork will likely be in S.VT this weekend if you wanted to arrange a sale, though I'm not certain of that.



That might not be a bad idea.  How can I contact him?  I don't know what TGR is. 

 

post #11 of 14
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thanks guys!  I bought the Mojo 90s from DoWork.  They should get me through the rest of this season and give me a good idea of what a wide ski is like.  I believe my Six Stars were only 68 under foot.  Next season I will hit a few demo days and find the perfect ski for me.  Who knows maybe I will be happy enough with the Mojos to keep them for next season too.     

post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 

I skied the Mojo 90s yesterday at Stratton. Thanks DoWork! 

 

Conditions yesterday were hardpack groomers everywhere.  The few glades that were open were played out and hard as a rock.  The Mojo's did a suprisingly good job on the hardpack.  I was concerned they would be too soft and chatter at speed but they weren't bad.  Yesterdays conditions would have been more ideal for the Six Stars but the Mojos weren't bad.  They do have a speed limit compared to the Six Stars which were like missiles and stable no matter what the speed.  But even at very high speeds the Mojos did ok.  Edge grip on ice doesn't compare to the Six Stars but I didn't expect them to.  Overall the Mojos were fun and did better than I expected considering the conditions.  They are a lot easier to ski than the Six Stars.  Much less tiring. I am excited to try them on softer conditions which is where they should out shine the Six Stars.    

 

I am heading to Sugarloaf next for Reggae Fest.  Hopefully the conditions are as good as last year. 

 

 

 

 

 

post #14 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

I skied the Mojo 90s yesterday at Stratton. Thanks DoWork! 

 

Conditions yesterday were hardpack groomers everywhere.  The few glades that were open were played out and hard as a rock.  The Mojo's did a suprisingly good job on the hardpack.  I was concerned they would be too soft and chatter at speed but they weren't bad.  Yesterdays conditions would have been more ideal for the Six Stars but the Mojos weren't bad.  They do have a speed limit compared to the Six Stars which were like missiles and stable no matter what the speed.  But even at very high speeds the Mojos did ok.  Edge grip on ice doesn't compare to the Six Stars but I didn't expect them to.  Overall the Mojos were fun and did better than I expected considering the conditions.  They are a lot easier to ski than the Six Stars.  Much less tiring. I am excited to try them on softer conditions which is where they should out shine the Six Stars.    

 

I am heading to Sugarloaf next for Reggae Fest.  Hopefully the conditions are as good as last year. 

 

 

 

 

 



Nice!  Glad to hear you enjoyed them-  Just wait until you get them in the soft corn and slushy bumps tho!  Stoked for you, man.  Ski safe and enjoy those boards!     

 

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: General Skiing Discussion
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › General Skiing Discussion › Newbie here that needs some recommendations...long