Originally Posted by Carl R
Are you describing the "phantom move"?
Without turning this into a CSIA vs PMTS thread... Phantom move is fine as a drill for balancing over the outside ski. I've worked with this technique with some learners who are having challenges tipping.
When I talk about abrupt transitions from one outside ski to the other, I think more about a pronounced step which may be accompanied by a slight stem. It works at different levels, but not really go-to technique. (Yeah, we can argue that some racers do it... ... it still wouldn't be my go-to technique for freeskiing a bump run or a recreational run.)
Originally Posted by L&AirC
OK.. No smart butt answer this time.
Everything stated so far is true. Mainly that there is no set formula but from transition, it should be something like (plus/minus somewhat for terrain, abilities, turn shape, and desired outcome):
From transition - 50/50ish starting to favor the soon to be outside ski
up to turn initiation - maybe a little more on new outside ski - IMO this is skier dependant. some seem to focus briefly on the inside then switch to the outside immediately. I like to give the controls to the new outside ski just before transition while still on uphill edges.
through the apex - significantly more on the outside than inside but enough on the inside to recover should it be needed. Also make sure that the inside ski isn't weighted because it is under your torso. It should be weighted while out to the side.
coming out of the turn - transfer of control heading to the current inside ski soon to be outside ski (on uphill edges)
To transition - heading to 50/50 again.
I think it's not worth the energy and hard to figure out if you have 70% or 80% or even 90% on which ski. Very easy to figure out which ski has the majority of pressure. I tend to think of that ski as the control ski and the other ski is back up. There will come a time when you might have a ski go from 50%-60%-70%-86% to 83% -71% etc, but by then, it will be happening naturally and you won't have to think about it. I also don't think it is the same everytime.
Apex? I admit to not knowing how PSIA describes turns.
I was going to argue the mechanics until I started to realize it's so dependent on your turn shape, speed, pitch, snow conditions... size of one's cojones... to stay in balance, on hardpack at moderate speed down a moderate pitch, I would still like to see close to 100% on the outside ski through the end of the turn, as otherwise I can only picture someone falling inside and back... then needing to make a biiig recovery move. We're talking pencil lines (a carve). well, I imagine so anyway, though from what I understand, people have taken to redefining carving lately too... sigh.
Either way, carving is just one way to get down part of the mountain, and it doesn't work everywhere for everyone in all conditions on all skis. Even the diehard carving philosophy folks talk about a "brushed carve" for recreational skiing. Carving is worth attaining, among the many other ways to get down the hill.