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post #31 of 45
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Originally Posted by iWill View Post

 

It wouldn't make sense to have a trail map at Perfect North in Indiana that had all green runs.

 

 

BSmeter.gif  Come on now..............even I know you can't have an avalanche on a green run.smile.gif  (and yes these pictures are from Perfect North) (It's far steeper than Alta on the back side of the mtn)

 

http://snowtrails.org/gallery/album05

 

post #32 of 45
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Originally Posted by pdiddy View Post

.  if you think you are going to go up snowbird and just hit a bunch of double blacks on the trail map, you are mistaken.  Instead I suggest hooking up with someone who can take you to the actual steep stuff, as a bunch of the labeled runs are overrated (meaning they are NOT blacks or double blacks).    Go to Jackson hole and the blacks are blacks, and the double blacks are really double blacks.  telluride,Abasin, Whistler BC etc..   NOT TO SAY THAT SNOWBIRD DOESN"T HAVE SOME GREAT DOUBLE BLACKS, its just that you have to Hike/traverse to most/all of them and you won't know where they are because they have about a half dozen runs falsely labeled as such.  Runs at snowbird that are labeled as double blacks that I do not agree with, Wilbere bowl, wilbere chute,gad chute, Upper cirque, great scott,(steep but that's it, not doubleblack criteria)   Exit Gully?  uhhhh I went down it and didn't even know it was a black let alone a double...      All of these runs would be labeled as a black at other resorts (maybe certain ares would be labeled as such because of a cliff or rock to jump off of).    Now lets talk about the Blacks that I think are Blues,  CARBONATE, ORGAN GRINDER,  (are you kidding me! BLUE at best)     Primrose path, adger, willows, Harpers Ferryeast, Lower silver fox, and Blackforest    

Sure every resort has a hand full of runs that don't add up,(usually around beginner areas)  but snowbird really goes overboard IMO.  Not sure why either... Do they do it to keep beginners away?  Or to draw chargers in??   or both...


Poignant. WTF are you talking about, dude? If you want to break it down like that, every friggin' ski resort in the world has miscategorized runs. Besides not being so great at writing coherent sentences and paragraphs, you don't even make sense. Great Scott shouldn't be a double black because it's steep and nothing else? Yeah, okay, you should be in charge of rating... confused.gif Sounds like you just have issues with Snowbird and/or like to troll. 

 

post #33 of 45
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Originally Posted by iWill View Post

The OP never posted anything about trail ratings.

 

As far as "not agreeing at all", you're welcome to disagree with that; or with the earth being round; or that Lindsy Lohan knows how to party. If you're making your vacation decisions based on trail maps, you're going to occasionally be disappointed.

 

Here's what wikipedia has to say about it:

 

"There is no governing body that assigns difficulty ratings to ski trails. Instead, ski resorts assign ratings to their own trails, marking a given trail according to its relative difficulty when compared with other trails at that resort. As a result, identically pitched trails at different resorts can have different ratings. Some skiers and snowboarders may interpret this as manipulation of ratings of their slopes to appeal to as wide an audience as possible; in fact, it is an attempt by ski areas to conform to the trail rating conventions.

This means that a black diamond at one resort is not necessarily a black diamond at another; it could be a blue square or double black. Thus, the NSAA advises all skiers, of all ability levels, to work their way up from an easy slope so that they can become familiar with the trail markings at a ski area.

Although slope gradient is the primary consideration in assigning a trail rating, other factors come into play — including trail width, normal snow conditions and whether or not the resort regularly grooms the trail."

 

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I guess I am one of those skiers who is warning another that a bunch of runs are interpreted as manipulation.    I see nothing wrong with that.   Someone here could suggest to him to go up Baldy Express and hike/ski Baldy, and steer him away from runs that he would not consider steep (oh wait I just did that).  Or better yet a local could even offer to show him. 

 

post #34 of 45
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Originally Posted by JoeUT View Post




Poignant. WTF are you talking about, dude? If you want to break it down like that, every friggin' ski resort in the world has miscategorized runs. Besides not being so great at writing coherent sentences and paragraphs, you don't even make sense. Great Scott shouldn't be a double black because it's steep and nothing else? Yeah, okay, you should be in charge of rating... confused.gifSounds like you just have issues with Snowbird and/or like to troll. 

 

 

Why don't you offer to show him around?  Perhaps he will find Carbonte and organ grinder to be the most terrifying blacks ever skied... 

seriously though, being a local you could offer to show him around Baldy, or at least point him to the right direction. 



 

post #35 of 45

It doesn't get any better lift assisted then at the top of little cottonwood.   Should be terrain for everyone.  Maybe a bit more low angle groomed stuff and more traverses and hikes at Alta.

 

But the OP sounds more like a La Grave, Mount Blanc or even Silverton type, so he probably wouldn't like the Little Cottonwood resorts.    Maybe try Squaw in north Tahoe.  I believe a bunch of posters on epic know about that place.


Edited by altabrig - 3/23/11 at 1:35pm
post #36 of 45

yeah, but should you wear a helmet there?  how about ski's;  Which ones should I bring?  What's the weather and snow gonna be like?

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yeah, but should you wear a helmet there?  how about ski's;  Which ones should I bring?  What's the weather and snow gonna be like?


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165cm ice carvers with a lot of sidecut.  Great on those icy mornings and corny afternoons. 

 

 

Oh and maybe something for getting into 3D powcrudchunder that float or just stick with the carvers.

 

post #38 of 45

yeah, but what edge on the SL's?  I mean gotta have the right tune and the perfect wax too!  Should i wear 2 pairs of cotton socks or just one thick wool one?

post #39 of 45
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Originally Posted by altabrig View Post
Maybe try Squaw in north Tahoe.  I believe a bunch of posters on epic know about that place.

I have heard that there is so much snow at Squaw this year, that it is flat as a pancake & all runs have been re-designated green or double green.  Eagles nest is one exception & is now a light blue.

JF
 

 

post #40 of 45
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

yeah, but should you wear a helmet there?  how about ski's;  Which ones should I bring?  What's the weather and snow gonna be like?


Short with a lot of side cut to get more turns per vertical foot.  150cm SL or better yet, snowlerbaldes should be ideal.

 

3 pins with leather boots and waxless touring skis as well if you want to go through some gates and climb back up to get an aerobic workout. Don't need skins in LCC. Scales work better here.

 

Its rained enough this month that the base is pretty compact. No worries about a powder dump to ruin your carving.

post #41 of 45
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Originally Posted by 4ster View Post

I have heard that there is so much snow at Squaw this year, that it is flat as a pancake & all runs have been re-designated green or double green.  Eagles nest is one exception & is now a light blue.

JF
 

 



I'm condused. Is double green easier than green or more difficult?

Don't want to over-terrain on my first time out. eek.gif

 

post #42 of 45



at my mountain the double greens are much more difficult, the blues are wicked steep and gnarly. Lots of mandatory air too.  Blind chokes are a bitch, this mountain sounds waaay too mellow for my rad self. I bought a ski-tote for the trip last night on e-bay: sniped it from some dude in Desplain Iowa, I bet he was pissed!

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I'm condused. Is double green easier than green or more difficult?

Don't want to over-terrain on my first time out. eek.gif

 



 

post #43 of 45
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Short with a lot of side cut to get more turns per vertical foot.  150cm SL or better yet, snowlerbaldes should be ideal.

 

3 pins with leather boots and waxless touring skis as well if you want to go through some gates and climb back up to get an aerobic workout. Don't need skins in LCC. Scales work better here.

 

Its rained enough this month that the base is pretty compact. No worries about a powder dump to ruin your carving.


I dunno about this advice.  Perhaps a saucer and a bottle of Jack Daniels would be better.

 

Mike

 

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I dunno about this advice.  Perhaps a saucer and a bottle of Jack Daniels would be better.

 

Mike

 



 

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Originally Posted by 4ster View Post

I have heard that there is so much snow at Squaw this year, that it is flat as a pancake & all runs have been re-designated green or double green.  Eagles nest is one exception & is now a light blue.

JF
 

 



Can I get the SoCoSaucer on the Tram?   I hear they don't allow saucers at Alta.
 

 


Edited by altabrig - 3/25/11 at 10:05am
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