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Superfeet Black... anyone use them in boots?

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On the Superfeet site, if you click "skiing," all the footbeds shown are high volume, except for blue (which is medium).  This implies no other footbeds could be used in a boot.

 

However, the black is listed as their slimmest footbed for tight-fitting footwear, great for flat-footed wide-feet people, yet is not "recommended" for alpine.

 

Has anyone put the Black insoles in their boots?  How about blue?  How was the performance?

 

 

 

Also, the Superfeet site implies that ALL people will be knock-kneed when skiing if they don't have superfeet, and then magically when superfeet is put in they are square??  WTF is up with that?  Superfeet Orange was too voluminous, pained my feet, and misaligned my knee to point of pain.

 

(to those of you that think OTC footbeds are stupid, I agree... it's just till next season I really can't set aside the cash for custom ones)... I am getting Superfeet because they confer better and more responsive energy transfer from my foot to the ski (the stock footbed lets me rotate a bunch before my edge can be pressured.  I expect laser-precision from my 98 mm boots.

post #2 of 6

I use the blacks in my cycling shoes - work great, especially on long mileage rides, but would be way under-developed for me to use in a ski boot.

I tried the Greens in my boots, but found they just didn't have enough support - but still much better than stock footbeds...

I'm using Red now (with a 1 degree wedge), and in spite of my very high instep (and arch) fit is excellent.

I do have a narrow and slim foot, except for the heel. Someone with a high volume foot and high instep might find them too much, hence the blues and greens.

The Reds definitely have the most 'support' of the range, and take up the most volume.

 

Many people think that aftermarket footbeds resolve foot problems. Of course that's not true. They hopefully provide better alignment/support, which is neutral, for people who don't need orthotics..

 

Companies all use hyperbole to 'market' their stuff, whether it needs it or not - seems the way things are.

And scare tactics abound everywhere.

thankfully a lot of 'product' can still stand on its own merits

post #3 of 6

Had the greens for a while before moving to a sole moldable footbed and then a custom orthotic. It does not provide much support. I think the sole is a good choice if you don't need a custom orthotic - otoh, I think most people would benefit from a real orthotic or at least a good alignment analysis.

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I have the black superfeet insoles in my alpine boots, and they work great for me.  As my bootfitter put it when I asked him about custom footbeds, for people with feet like mine, the bottom of the boot is the footbed.  I remember him grinding out some of the arch support to get it out of the way, too.

 

It's totally dependent on the shape of your foot, though.  I happen to have a very flat foot that's functional in the sense that it isn't prone to twisting or anything, so the goal was to put as little as possible between my foot and the boot board.  Consequently, something thin like the black superfeet is ideal.

 

A previous fitter I'd seen seemed to be part of the "everybody needs a custom footbed" crew, and had made me a set of custom footbeds.  They caused impressive amounts of pain and compromised control of my skis to the point that I was petrified of blue groomers.  Each time I brought them back, he made changes that made them worse, until I eventually gave up.  It's all about what your foot looks like.  Make sure the fitter you see will be honest with you, and isn't just looking to sell you stuff.

 

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by DanBoisvert View Post

I have the black superfeet insoles in my alpine boots, and they work great for me.  As my bootfitter put it when I asked him about custom footbeds, for people with feet like mine, the bottom of the boot is the footbed.  I remember him grinding out some of the arch support to get it out of the way, too.

 

It's totally dependent on the shape of your foot, though.  I happen to have a very flat foot that's functional in the sense that it isn't prone to twisting or anything, so the goal was to put as little as possible between my foot and the boot board.  Consequently, something thin like the black superfeet is ideal.

 

A previous fitter I'd seen seemed to be part of the "everybody needs a custom footbed" crew, and had made me a set of custom footbeds.  They caused impressive amounts of pain and compromised control of my skis to the point that I was petrified of blue groomers.  Each time I brought them back, he made changes that made them worse, until I eventually gave up.  It's all about what your foot looks like.  Make sure the fitter you see will be honest with you, and isn't just looking to sell you stuff.

 

Good luck!



Thanks for the insight on the Blacks.  I too have very flat and wide feet.  I need something pretty thin, but still durable enough to transfer energy to the skis.  I hope the Superfeet Blue I ordered work.  If they are too big, I'll order Blacks.

 

As far as my bootfitter... well, I need to go see him for shell stretching, because that's something you literally can't do yourself.  I really hope with the new footbeds I won't have to get any more of the shell punched out (the fee I paid is good for a year of shell-punching, but I've already been back twice and quite frankly I'm a little embarassed going back in there... combination of seeming like I have no life and also the implicit dissatisfaction with their service.  It's much more too).  I wouldn't be as embarassed if they were as passionate about bootfitting as I am about skiing.  Anyway, enough about that.

 

In any case my point is that selecting footbeds is up to me (since I'm not getting custom right now)... my shop only sells orange (which is not even designed for ski boots according to Superfeet), and Red, which were sold out.  Both are too high volume for me... kind of dumb the shop inventory people/owners think everyone has a tiny little foot with a high arch.

post #6 of 6

I have serious knee problems, so require a brace, therefore the arch support is more for foot positioning than for static alignment (brace does that). Both feet pronate like crazy. I just changed from the greens to the blacks. Very different. IMO, the blacks are superior because they allow more arch movement during turns, which I'm getting interested in from a technique viewpoint. The greens are "hard," meaning that they offer more unyielding support. I also like that the blacks appear to be more moldable to my arch shape.

 

Anyway, newish literature on running shoes, "orthotics," suggests they don't do a thing in terms of leg placement or motion at impact, but may relieve overuse pain, only now no one can figure out why.  

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