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ELAN Amphibio 82XTI

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Hi All,

 

I really enjoy the threads on this site - you guys are great!

Would like to know if anyone has had the pleasure or not to ride on the new 2012 ELAN's yet. I tried them this past weekend and was impressed with what they did to the ice crud I was riding on here in the Northeast. I am in the market and really leaning towards these over the AC 30, And Fisher 80. I feel their rocker camber blend does very well and wanted to get some input

 

Thanks Again

 

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Originally Posted by putyournameonit View Post

Hi All,

 

I really enjoy the threads on this site - you guys are great!

Would like to know if anyone has had the pleasure or not to ride on the new 2012 ELAN's yet. I tried them this past weekend and was impressed with what they did to the ice crud I was riding on here in the Northeast. I am in the market and really leaning towards these over the AC 30, And Fisher 80. I feel their rocker camber blend does very well and wanted to get some input

 

Thanks Again

 

I skied them this past week.  They are traditional Elan frontside feel: fairly powerful, stout, strong tail.  Where I noticed the design really working is when tipping the skis onto edge: the outside ski really hooked up, but I could tip the inside ski and drive it without it wanting to over drive and get me stuck on that inside ski.  It had no speed limit in a 176cm; absolutely no top end. I was ripping down the groomer under Red Dog at Squaw, and found I could really do anything on these, just as you can on a good race ski. They weren't too "railed"; I could arc them up on big edge angles, or I could pivot and smear them at the top of the turn, get them the direction I wanted them, then hit the edges (a move you see all the time on even flexing race skis, it can be kind of hard to do on railed carvers though) and explode through the fall line.  This is a very powerful ski; it feels as strong as the 82Xti, but is more controllable when you want to put the only partially onto edge.  Still a top end ski though.  I took it off piste, and at my weight (150lbs) it was too muscular for the bumps I was skiing. It would be fine in crud at speed, but for technical bumps, the Apex has always been a superior choice for light guys such as myself.  For someone looking for a powerful groomer ski that can handle off-piste crud and new snow, and is heavier than 180lbs, this is a very good choice. I would say the stability was a bit ahead of the Magnum 8.1 from Blizzard, and with the new inside/outside ski design, felt to be a bit more progressive in flex, which was perfect for backing off the power from the inside ski, but still giving you everything you want from you outside/big toe edge.  Even if I am skiing "white pass turns" on the inside ski, I am not getting the leverage I would on the outside ski; the design makes a whole lot of sense. If you like the AC30, you are really going to enjoy this ski. 

 

We have a couple of pair for sale here at the shop at a pre-season intro price.  Please PM if interested.  

 

 

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Thread Starter 

Thanks for the input Dawg

What do you think about the Amphibio compared to the Kendo? I have not tried the Kendo and was hoping to jump on them before the year is out. I am in search of a northeast all mountain ski. I am 6'1 185 advanced to expert and enjoy all terrain. Any others that I should try?

 

 

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Hi,

 

Well, the Kendo likely has a bigger sweet spot than the 82Xti, which is stiffer, a bit more aggressive, and more of a hard snow ripper. The Kendo is more all-mountain, the 82xti more frontside. I have skied the 82xti (old version) well in firm bumps and crud, but you have to be on it a bit more than the Kendo, which doesn't have as stiff of a tail and doesn't release as aggressively.  More predictable if you get out of balance, although it isn't anywhere as much fun as the 82Xti when you really nail a turn.

 

If you are comparing the Kendo to Elan, best to look at the Apex. Those 2 skis are very similar.  We have a pair of 177cm's in the 2012 Apex in stock for purchase, if that is what you are looking for. They have a low rise tip rocker, otherwise ski very similar to the Kendo, with a touch softer tip, a little more compliant and a larger sweet spot.  The Kendo may be a touch more stable, not as smooth though. The Apex is perhaps my favorite ~90mm ski for doing just about everything; I love the Kendo as well, although the stiffer tip took a bit more input to drive for me, as a lightweight.  Other good skis worth checking out include the Salomon Sentinel and Dynastar Sultan 94.  The Sultan can feel soft at big speeds, but is a treat in steeps and elsewhere when you need a quick ski (it has tip rocker and taper).

 

 

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Hi Dawg - I think I miss typed or got trapped in the new model change up from ELAN. I was referring to the new 82XTI (Amphibio Waveflex) that you rode on last week not the old 82XTI without the rocker camber combo. So I guess the question now is how do you see the Apex vs the new Amphibio Waveflex 82XTI vs the KENDO which you answered...?

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IMO the Amphibio technology is a solution looking for a problem that doesn't exist - at least not in my skiing style.  Maybe it works for some folks, but I would hate to have a set of skis that have a dedicated right and left ski.  I was also not "wowed" by their on-snow performance.

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Now imagine a level 5-6 or aspiring but unathletic 7, with boots a titch on the stiff side, demoing these.     Could it  sell, especially on slushy or otherwise grabby demo days?

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IMO the Amphibio technology is a solution looking for a problem that doesn't exist - at least not in my skiing style. 



 

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