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post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 

Hello,

 

Im looking for my first powder/allmountain ski. Ive been looking at the salomon shogun and the line prophet 100. I know both skis(mostly prophet 100) are easy skis. 

 

Im not that good yet and to me its very important that the ski is easy to turn in the powder.

 

I also will be hitting groomers, I only have money for one pair so it has to do that too.

 

Do you guys know any other skis like the prophet 100 wich are super easy to ski in the powder?

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

post #2 of 24

Rossi S3, plus it's not too bad on groomers

post #3 of 24
Thread Starter 

is the s3 very easy ski and quick turn? I guess the s3 would float even better than the prohet 100 because of the rocker in tip. is that right?

post #4 of 24
Thread Starter 

befor i forget i am 1 meter and 90 centimeters and weight about 79 kilod

post #5 of 24

Blizzard "the One". Its exactly what you are asking for.

post #6 of 24

Not sure WHERE you're skiing but my $.02..

 

I rented the Rossi S3 this weekend at Kicking Horse British Columbia... Boot - Thigh pow in the trees and higher alpine, crusty thaw/freeze cycle at the bottom.

 

they were GREAT at the top of the mountain,  turned very easily, floated like a dream.

 

Bottom half of the mountain?  I did not enjoy.  at all.

 

With the exception of my first two runs, short - PERFECT grooming - Prozac chord.... on THAT, I was surprised with the edge hold.  On the hard pack by midday?  awful IMHO.

 

 

post #7 of 24
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Originally Posted by BrendonR View Post

Not sure WHERE you're skiing but my $.02..

 

I rented the Rossi S3 this weekend at Kicking Horse British Columbia... Boot - Thigh pow in the trees and higher alpine, crusty thaw/freeze cycle at the bottom.

 

they were GREAT at the top of the mountain,  turned very easily, floated like a dream.

 

Bottom half of the mountain?  I did not enjoy.  at all.

 

With the exception of my first two runs, short - PERFECT grooming - Prozac chord.... on THAT, I was surprised with the edge hold.  On the hard pack by midday?  awful IMHO.

 

 


That's why people who ski big mountains prefer beefier big mountain skis that they can drive through the chunder. The S3 / One are not that ski. But its still a great for what it is.

 

post #8 of 24
Thread Starter 

Which of these   : -blizzard the one
                           -Prophet 100

                           -Rossi s3

                           -k2 kung fujas

Will turn easiest in the powder and on groomers?

And wich will probably float the best??(im guessing the s3 because of the tip but im not sure)

post #9 of 24

to make the choice even worse for you, these skis are greats: Line Sir Francis Bacon

if you check the reviews on evo, you'll see what i mean. peepz call it everyday pow ski, versatile.

"These are great everyday skis that carve the hardpack, float the pow pow, and blast through the chop."

 

 

@montvallon I would say the K2 kung fujas, taking in consideration it's the only "true" powder ski from your selection.

but that's not experience based though!

 

 

post #10 of 24


The One is a super fun, stupid easy to ski in pow set of boards. its also does just fine on the groomed; especially if this is secondary to fresh and soft broken stuff.
 

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Originally Posted by montvallon View Post

Hello,

 

Im looking for my first powder/allmountain ski. Ive been looking at the salomon shogun and the line prophet 100. I know both skis(mostly prophet 100) are easy skis. 

 

Im not that good yet and to me its very important that the ski is easy to turn in the powder.

 

I also will be hitting groomers, I only have money for one pair so it has to do that too.

 

Do you guys know any other skis like the prophet 100 wich are super easy to ski in the powder?

 

Thanks!

 

 

 



 



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Originally Posted by tromano View Post

Blizzard "the One". Its exactly what you are asking for.



 

post #11 of 24
Thread Starter 

@aqpowderski,

 

Thanks for your suggestion but im affraid those skis would be a bit too wide for everyay use, about the blizzard One; I like what i read about those skis, only thing is I cant find eny shops that sell it in Europe:s...:(

 

I think im gonna go with the rossignol S3 because of the 'amtek' thing wich makes it very easy to turn in powder and groomer they say..

Also like it because of the rockered tip and think this one is going to float very well..

 

just about the size, I am 1 meter and 90 centimeters long and i weight about 78/80 kilos, My level is advanced 

 

Should I get the 1:86 or 1:77

 

 


Edited by montvallon - 3/14/11 at 1:50pm
post #12 of 24

amptek is just rocker. its a good ski and I think you will enjoy it.  you want the 177. Cheers!

post #13 of 24
Thread Starter 

changed my post a little, i looked it up and  i am not intermediate but advanced, should I still get the 1:77? or can i handle the 1:86

 

I doont know iff this ski skis shorter than 1:77 or 1:86

 

thnksssssss

post #14 of 24

Probably the 18X.

post #15 of 24
Thread Starter 

whats 18x?

post #16 of 24

i think 18x means 184, 185, 186 or 188 size of ski.

 

with your weight of 80 kg, the chosen ski and everyday skiing at advanced level, i would go for around 175 size ski

post #17 of 24

You're going with the S3 then?

 

You're 176 lbs (80 kgs) and 6'3" (190cms)

 

I would def. think you'd want the 186.  Keep in mind the rocker does eliminate some of the "length" of the ski when you're on a groomer.  I skied the 168 and did find that the tail was a bit.... washy on groomers. 

post #18 of 24



6'3"?  My calculations were off but the 184 S3 has the SAME running length as the 177 just has a rediculous floppy tip that is easily deflected.....  Just saying.....

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Originally Posted by BrendonR View Post

You're going with the S3 then?

 

You're 176 lbs (80 kgs) and 6'3" (190cms)

 

I would def. think you'd want the 186.  Keep in mind the rocker does eliminate some of the "length" of the ski when you're on a groomer.  I skied the 168 and did find that the tail was a bit.... washy on groomers. 



 

post #19 of 24

yup - 1 meter + 90 cms = 190 cms = 74.8 inches = 6.233 feet tall.  = 6' + 2.76"

 

184 and 177 S3 have the same running length?  really?  wow - interesting.  I figured that the proportions would stay the same...

 

Guess it WOULD be better to get the 177 then (less deflection as you say).... i stand corrected.

post #20 of 24
Thread Starter 

O sorry I forgot you americans use other measuring for weight and heighttongue.gif

 

But what do you mean with deflection? and wouldnt the 186 float better in powder? is there much difference in easyness to turn between the 177 and 186?

Just for the record, Right now i ski a normal piste ski( volk motion i think) that is 175 cm long.  

post #21 of 24

With his height he's better off with a longer ski but since we are only talking the S3 here, there's really no choice, the 186 is 1mm wider in the shovel but jumps to a 23m tr, from 19.8. If you do a little searching there are a few threads on the S3 and the effective running length. 

 

Deflected means knocked around....

 

I would be interested to know what ski lines he can get as there has to be better/other skis available....

post #22 of 24
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Originally Posted by montvallon View Post

O sorry I forgot you americans use other measuring for weight and heighttongue.gif

 

But what do you mean with deflection? and wouldnt the 186 float better in powder? is there much difference in easyness to turn between the 177 and 186?

Just for the record, Right now i ski a normal piste ski( volk motion i think) that is 175 cm long.  


Americans?  HEY!  I take exception to that!  I'm Canadian! jk.gif

 

 

Deflection - when your ski is pointed one direction, then the snow (or rock, stump, fence, downed snowboarder, etc.) causes it to jump around and move in another direction.  Ever be in the middle of a turn, and hit some crud that causes your turn to sharpen?  that's deflection.

 

 

post #23 of 24
Thread Starter 

ooh forget there could also be canadians on this site..rolleyes.gif But thanks for the info,

 

Because of the deflection story and so I decided to pick the Prophet 100, I have been searching for the Blizzard One but could not find it here in europe anywhere(internetshops)..

 

The prophet 100 is a easy ski with low turning radius, also good on the groomers(where I could be alot when there is no snow during skivacation).

 

I guess I should get in 1:86? will it still turn easy?

post #24 of 24


your weight should definately prioritize your lenght in choice of size skis.

watch the full lenght of this short skis.com video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiwKiikdRxk

 

It's my opinion 177 would suit you best based on what you've described in this thread

 

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by montvallon View Post

ooh forget there could also be canadians on this site..rolleyes.gif But thanks for the info,

 

Because of the deflection story and so I decided to pick the Prophet 100, I have been searching for the Blizzard One but could not find it here in europe anywhere(internetshops)..

 

The prophet 100 is a easy ski with low turning radius, also good on the groomers(where I could be alot when there is no snow during skivacation).

 

I guess I should get in 1:86? will it still turn easy?



 

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