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Car and Skis Analogies - Really????

post #1 of 14
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An old saying “Freud argued that analogy is the weakest form of reasoning’. While there are valid arguments for using analogy, I’m sick of having skis compared to hyper-exotic cars that few get to see - let alone drive, let alone drive in the conditions they are designed for. Do readers of the analogy really believe reviewer is a sophisticated expert or, like me, believe it’s all b.s.? What is the primary source of reviewers’ information, a subscription to Car and Driver? Gosh, isn’t the snob appeal of the associating Kastle and Porshe extremely meaningful? Give me a break! And then there’s always the question about who has pockets deep enough to buy and maintain said car.

 

Perhaps the neatest car I’ve ever owned was a BMW 525. A lot to like, nice road car, but very much underpowered. Any comparison to a ski I've owned is purely personal. Maybe I’m just too practical and/or cheap to spend the $$ on high end skis or cars. Certainly, I can’t deny that many appreciate fine cars far more than I. Not knocking those that do. Sit with others of similar taste, smoke cigars and drink Cognac while discussing the finer points of cars and skis, but, stop trying to impress by analogy.

 

One vote that all who choose to make car/skis analogy be required to post what is their daily driver. Do as I say or Do as I do?

 

Sorry Phil.

post #2 of 14

 

The problem you run into is that _only_  the exotic set of whatever product you can name will actually _clearly_ exemplify a design philosophy other than "This is our compromise of cost and perception of market need".     

 

The lower you go in price, the more $cost and manufacturer perception of market wants will dominate over other design philosophy.  

 

Sure, there will be design idea differences at lower prices, but they will not be so clearly evident that both the writer and the reader will think they understand them  in the same way.  

 

 

This is true of any product whatsoever.    Don't like car analogies?   Pick another product.

 

Now if you have a writing tool that can explain a sheaf of nuances without diving into a bog of messy disputable detail, and without using analogy, I'd be more than glad to hear about it.

 

 

post #3 of 14

Mike, you ignorant slut... wink.gif

 

I use cars a lot in my analogies because most people have driven many different brands and have a feel on how a Lexus differs from a BMW and a Benz for a point of reference. I am sorry theses analogies don't work for you but I DO find that they help in the vast majority of sales over the years. If I run into someone like yourself that it doesn't make sense for, I will ask for products that offer similar ranges. I don't think anyone is trying to impress anyone with the use of Porsche...it is just an example.  

post #4 of 14

I think the points of difference for the skis made with the car analogies actually works pretty well ,offering a comparison model you can relate to. This comes from a guy that just got rid of his 2002 Chrysler LXI with 195,000 miles on it. What the he__ do I know about the Porsche Cayan , but yet when you compare say the Bliz 8.7 to the Cayan I understand (I think) what is being said.

 

What would you compare the Chrysler LXI to Philpug, you're favorite ski of all time the K2 Recon?

post #5 of 14

What does the car the person OWN have anything to do with the comparison? Phil has driven all he references and/or understands the characteristics of the cars much in the same way ski lines have thier signature feel. I think you know Phil well-enough to know he's not trying to impress by referencing cars.  how would you describe a ski like a MX88 for instance? As a Honda civic?

 

Is someone mr. cranky pants today?  biggrin.gif  Come on Mike, I'll buy ya' a beer!

post #6 of 14

My cars and my skis are very similar in some respects;

mostly bought used

with plenty of miles,

very nonexotic,

poorly maintained,

but still running and all paid for.smile.gif

post #7 of 14

My daily driver is a 2004 Nissan 350Z 6-speed touring...a perfect match for my Atomic D2 tech skis...

 

ski.gif

post #8 of 14

LOL, I just read this after posting a thread comparing my skis (Hot Rod Jet Fuels) to my friend's Dodge Viper SRT10 while comparing Rossi Avenger 82 TIs to my E92 V8 M3.

 

post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by roundturns View Post

I think the points of difference for the skis made with the car analogies actually works pretty well ,offering a comparison model you can relate to. This comes from a guy that just got rid of his 2002 Chrysler LXI with 195,000 miles on it. What the he__ do I know about the Porsche Cayan , but yet when you compare say the Bliz 8.7 to the Cayan I understand (I think) what is being said.

 

What would you compare the Chrysler LXI to Philpug, you're favorite ski of all time the K2 Recon?

More like the K2 Apache Ranger. wink.gif I never said I disliked the Recon...it just wasn't the ski for me, but for the late 40's balding guy who thought he used to be good and now skis at places like Okemo (east) or Northstar (west). Know any one like that? 
 

 

post #10 of 14

I admire a solid, quality older car with new tires more than the opposite which would indicate someone in over their head. analogy to skis, get a good ski and ski it for a while. that's my friends on the hill, recognizable in part by the ski they ride, for years.

post #11 of 14

I think the car analogies are pretty good.  The handling characteristics -ultimate grip, response, feedback, control are all there.  I do try to keep it to cars I and most people have an idea about.  I would prefer folks compare with chevys and fords (and by ford I mean Mustang GT, not GT40), than the higher priced stuff, but I suppose there are rich folk who ski too.

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I think the car analogies are pretty good.  The handling characteristics -ultimate grip, response, feedback, control are all there.  I do try to keep it to cars I and most people have an idea about.  I would prefer folks compare with chevys and fords (and by ford I mean Mustang GT, not GT40), than the higher priced stuff, but I suppose there are rich folk who ski too.



Problem with that is we could never talk about any nice skis  wink.gif

 

post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by Living Proof View Post

An old saying “Freud argued that analogy is the weakest form of reasoning’.

 

One vote that all who choose to make car/skis analogy be required to post what is their daily driver. Do as I say or Do as I do?


Lighten up, Francis.

 

post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post





Problem with that is we could never talk about any nice skis  wink.gif

 

I don't know about that.  Driven any corvettes lately?   The new camaro is pretty nice too.  I see what you mean about the Fords though wink.gif


 

 

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