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post #61 of 66
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A year ago they were clearing out Tyrolia branded FF Pro 15's at $99 a shot. THAT was the deal of the century - I had 3 pairs sent to Norway!

 

Note that the $149 price is for 88mm brakes. If you want any other size you have to put 45 bucks extra on the table (and 88mm on race skis don't work so well ;) )

... but if you're putting them on a Rev 85 then no worries.

 

OK, here's the dumb question of the week: what's the general rule for optimal brake size for given ski waist size?  

 

Obviously, the brakes can't be narrower than the ski waist.  But can they be the same size -- for example, 88 waist and 88 brakes?  If not, how much wider is best (as a general rule)?  From your post (and intuitively), too wide is not good.  What's optimal?        

 

Thanks!

post #62 of 66
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OK, here's the dumb question of the week: what's the general rule for optimal brake size for given ski waist size?

 

Obviously, the brakes can't be narrower than the ski waist.  But can they be the same size -- for example, 88 waist and 88 brakes?  If not, how much wider is best (as a general rule)?  From your post (and intuitively), too wide is not good.  What's optimal?      

 

Thanks!

 

In most cases, an 88 waist brake is designed to fit an 88 waist ski- which means several MM of clearance.

 

It is quite easy to bend a brake oversize, to accommodate maybe an additional 20mm or so. For us folks that scrounge some of the primo, metal in all the right places-type bindings from the straight ski era, bending out straight ski brakes to fit skis in the 95-105 range is usually very doable.

 

I would try to buy a brake that was closest to the ski size I was looking at- either lower or higher. If for some reason I didn't have a choice about what brake I used, I wouldn't worry too much about buying an undersized brake and planning to bend it- within reason.

post #63 of 66
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A year ago they were clearing out Tyrolia branded FF Pro 15's at $99 a shot. THAT was the deal of the century - I had 3 pairs sent to Norway!

 

Note that the $149 price is for 88mm brakes. If you want any other size you have to put 45 bucks extra on the table (and 88mm on race skis don't work so well ;) )

... but if you're putting them on a Rev 85 then no worries.

 

OK, here's the dumb question of the week: what's the general rule for optimal brake size for given ski waist size?  

 

Obviously, the brakes can't be narrower than the ski waist.  But can they be the same size -- for example, 88 waist and 88 brakes?  If not, how much wider is best (as a general rule)?  From your post (and intuitively), too wide is not good.  What's optimal?        

 

Thanks!

+/- 5-8mm is my ideal

 

From memory:

 

Look SPX/Rossi Axl3 80, 90,100,115,130

Look Pivot/Rossi FKS 75, 95, 115, 130

Sal/Atomic Sth/Sth2 80, 90, 100, 115, 130

Marker Royal 90, 110, 135

Tyrolia 80, 88, 97, 115 130

 

I am sure I am missing a few

post #64 of 66
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Originally Posted by Jimski View Post
 

 

OK, here's the dumb question of the week: what's the general rule for optimal brake size for given ski waist size?  

 

Obviously, the brakes can't be narrower than the ski waist. 

 

Thanks!

 

 

Look/Rossi run wide.  They're easy to bend out a bit. I have 115's on a 118 (Rossi FKS), and 78's on an 85* (Tyrolia FF), and a 97 on a 100 (Head Mojo). 

 

* that's about absolute max I'd ever try personally.

post #65 of 66
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Look/Rossi run wide.  They're easy to bend out a bit. I have 115's on a 118 (Rossi FKS), and 78's on an 85* (Tyrolia FF), and a 97 on a 100 (Head Mojo). 

 

* that's about absolute max I'd ever try personally.


Tweaking out a bit, like 115 to 118 is generally okay, but Tyrolias are pretty stiff mofos and need some persuading - e.g. boot in binding and bend equally with two pieces of steel tubing.

 

Re-bending is another matter, but luckily it has fallen out of favour as manufacturers have all started producing wide brakes for wide skis.

In the dark period when FKS/Pivots weren't being made, and folks were desperate to put old FKS185s/P18s them on their XXL Legend Pros there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth over broken brake arms.

post #66 of 66

Thanks, everyone who responded.  Slowly, I'm filling the gaps in my ski gear knowledge....

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