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Volkl AC50 versus Nordica Firearrow 80

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Volkl C50 and Nordica Firearrow 80.  Can anyone compare and contrast these 2 skis.  I certainly know the best comparison is a same day demo, but maybe someone has experience with both.

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The AC50 is a burly, hard snow oriented, long turning ski.  Despite how Volkl may try to pitch it, it is pretty one dimensional.  It also can be quite demanding, with a pretty high minimum speed limit.  That's probably why they got rid of it for 2012.  The Firearrow is a lot more versatile.  It won't bust crud or rail a groomer quite as well as the AC50, but it'll do a lot more for you than the AC50 will (quantitatively).  The Firearrow can mix up turn shapes very well and is a ski that takes on the much attempted "one ski quiver", especially for the East.  If you love railing long turns at high speed and need a good crudbuster, go AC50.  But if you are pretty much anything else, give the Firearrow a try. 

 

Tyler

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Tyler,

 

Thank you for the great response.  I love high speed straight-line crud busting (think spring skiing) but also love flying down icy wind-blown slopes (also high-altitude spring as in A-Basin). 

Thanks for the help.

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I ski the FA 80 and Blizzard Magnum 8.7 back to back frequently.  I think the Mag is considered similar to the AC50, but a LITTLE softer and forgiving.  For me, the FA 80 is the utlimate, fun 70% groomed/30% ungroomed choice.  It's fun, energetic, rips fairly short radius pure carved turns, but still floats adequately off-piste up to around 4-5 inches.  In steep, soft, moguled-up stuff (think Lower Sublette or Riverton at Jackson 2 days after a storm cycle) it can be a bit stiff and overly-sidecut.  That is where the Mag shines.  Just shines.  Effortless, stable, fun.  But when you're connecting the dots on the groomers, the FA is easily twice the fun of the 8.7.

 

If you're leaning toward the AC50, you might wait a bit.  I believe that it is being replaced with a more user-friendly version for next season.  Same with the Mag 8.7.

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I ski the FA 80 and Blizzard Magnum 8.7 back to back frequently.  I think the Mag is considered similar to the AC50, but a LITTLE softer and forgiving.  For me, the FA 80 is the utlimate, fun 70% groomed/30% ungroomed choice.  It's fun, energetic, rips fairly short radius pure carved turns, but still floats adequately off-piste up to around 4-5 inches.  In steep, soft, moguled-up stuff (think Lower Sublette or Riverton at Jackson 2 days after a storm cycle) it can be a bit stiff and overly-sidecut.  That is where the Mag shines.  Just shines.  Effortless, stable, fun.  But when you're connecting the dots on the groomers, the FA is easily twice the fun of the 8.7.

 

If you're leaning toward the AC50, you might wait a bit.  I believe that it is being replaced with a more user-friendly version for next season.  Same with the Mag 8.7.


The Mag 8.7 is sooo much better than the AC50..and even the RTM40 that is replacing the AC50. The 8.7 is being updated with a bit of early rise next year...making a great ski even better. IMHO though, I would not hesitate to get a current 8.7 for a close out price. vs. waiting and paying street price next year for the new 8.7. 

 

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I have skied the AC50 for the past three seasons mostly at Killington but also in knee deep western powder. It is a demanding ski with a small sweet spot and rewards an aggressive skier. I have skied hard packed/ice/goormers (best fit) but have also had no problems in the woods and on softer bumps. It also is excellent - for me -  in chop/crud.

 

That beig said, it IS A STIFF ski and I would not recommend it for light weights. I check in at 6', 230 which will "soften" almost any ski.

 

I plan to demo the 8.7 as a replacement ski for my AC50s. From what shop people told me, if I truly like my current AC50s, I will not like the 2012 Volkl replacement ski.

 

I also plan to demo the Blizzard Bonafide

 

Falcon_O aka Charlie 

 

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The Mag 8.7 is sooo much better than the AC50..and even the RTM40 that is replacing the AC50. The 8.7 is being updated with a bit of early rise next year...making a great ski even better. IMHO though, I would not hesitate to get a current 8.7 for a close out price. vs. waiting and paying street price next year for the new 8.7. 

 



 

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