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Product: 2012 Blizzard Bonafide

Length/size Tested:  180cm

Environment of Conditions:

*Location of review: Squaw Valley

*Runs Taken:  2 days

*Snow Conditions: packed powder, windpacked, wet powder, cut-up cruddy snow, you name it....

*Demo or Purchase:  neither... loan from SJ

 

SUMMARY:

3-word capsule review:   Believe the hype

 

Full review:

I had a chance to ski the Blizzard Bonafide this weekend at Squaw. The ski was a 180 cm personal ski of SierraJim, mounted with Pivot14 at whatever line he chose.  The ski looked and felt perfectly tuned.  The first day was nice, clear and windy with mostly wind buffed soft surfaces with a few hard sports in between.  The second day was wet powder that was cut up and piled up in a lot of places.  Overall I had a chance to subject the skis to a range of pretty typical Sierra skiing conditions, except real deep powder and sheer ice.  I have other skis for the first, and I don't particularly care about the second, so I'd consider it a relatively comprehensive test.

The ski itself is 98mm underfoot, with a decent amount of tip rocker, which can be characterized more as an early rise.  The tails are also rockered, but in a rather subtle way, about 20 cm of the tail section is slightly upturned.  The skis have two and a half layers of metal, but still seem pretty light.  The stiffness can be classified as medium stiff with a remarkably consistent and smooth flex profile through the rockered sections, more about it later.  Apparently the cores are made from light but strong wood "Paulownia"  with some bamboo stringers and something else. (Unrelated trivia fact: Paulownia, was named in honour of Queen Anna Pavlovna of The Netherlands (1795–1865), daughter of Tsar Paul I of Russia. It is also called "princess tree" for the same reason.)   For those who have not seen the photos, the graphics is slightly translucent grey with red shapes that form a bull's head on one ski.  Both skis also have a metal appliqué of the said bull in the front mid section. All in all, a pretty neat package.

It took me a few turns to figure out the position on this ski but after that I was pretty comfortable.  I felt that the sweet spot had a decent size, but not too huge.  Get too much into the back seats and the Bonafide will run from under you in no time.  This ski will certainly reward a skilled driver who knows how to ski the front all the time (unlike, say, Salomon BBR which I felt made backseat driving actually kinda fun...).   Things I noticed right away were that the ski was incredibly quick, especially for a 98mm underfoot, turn initiation is nearly instantaneous, transition is also quick, ski does not get hung up, the tail is there and even has a decent amount of pop, despite having the rocker.  It felt quicker than the marked 21m turn radius.  So far, so good, now let's go faster.  This is where the magic started.  I felt like the skis were locking on the edge and the more I pushed the skis the longer that edge would feel.  The ride was not bumpy or nervous, it actually felt quite smooth, at time reminding me of my ProRiders.  In comparison the LPRs are still damper and they lock on edge immediately and more positively, but they are not even remotely as quick as the Bonafides.  The key sensation is that the ski bends into the turn very easily, but then as you start pushing further, it stiffens up very quickly.  It almost felt like the ski had two levels of stiffness that switched once you bend it past the ideal turn shape; I don't know if it makes much sense, but that's what it felt like.  Maybe that's what the flipcore is about, maybe not...

Even at 180cm the Bone was quite stable, no chatter, no tip flap once you put it on edge.  Also quite resistant to knocks: I was making arcs down the groomer when some snowboarder came from behind and clipped me, I kept going.  Incredibly, he made another turn and clipped me a second time, this time he went down, I still kept going. That dude also had the audacity to complain afterwards, but whatever...  So, a pretty exciting groomer ski.

Off trail things just got better, I felt that I had a light quick ski that I can toss and turn when I need to but at the same time it would find an edge and ski that edge right when and where I needed it.  Skiing steeps was effortless and maybe a little bit more exciting than I wanted it to be, this is where I wished I had the 187 instead of 180, still I felt that if I pushed the ski, the egde would magically grow and be there when I needed it.  The quickness of the ski really shined in chutes, it makes quick work of skiing tight spaces, very impressive, the rockered tail makes it very easy to turn the ski sideways to scrub speed but it still feels secure and locked in.

Cruddy snow was the same story- if I drove the ski over the pile, the rocker made it go over without any complaints, if I drove it into the pile, they sliced right through and the dampness would smooth things out.  It felt like the ski was playing with the crud, instead of bulldozing it; it just felt incredibly versatile instead of being a one trick pony.  I get to ski a few wet fresh tracks off KT22, no surprise there, rocker worked, the ski was stiff enough and wide enough to make those turns fun, and at no time I felt unstable.  The run ended up in a some trees, that's where the quickness again shined through.

Bumps felt very secure, rockered tips and tails were again the key there, my LPR always hangs up in the bumps, especially the tail; the Bonafide went through with a smile.  Pretty incredible in my book.

I am searching for the negatives and I honestly could not find many.  The skis sometime can feel a little "metallic", but they are plenty stable and damp to handle anything.  I have been skiing very secure and damp skis lately, so I am probably biased in that regard.  I am not a hucker, but a few small hops felt a bit harsh on the landing, so if you jump cliffs all day, this is not your ski.  That's about it.  I have been fond of the early taper shapes lately, this ski does not have it, and it seems that having an early taper would have killed this  magic "edge grows with speed" effect.

Why does it work so well?  I think Blizzard figured out the way to dial a flex pattern into a rockered ski that makes the typical downsides of a rocker go away.  As the result, the Bonafide does not ski shorter than it's length, does not suffer from tip flap, and does not loose any stability.  At the same time it is fully able to utilize the benefit of a ski geometry that is pre-bent into a turn shape, that's why it is so quick.  The way the flex stiffens once you move the ski past the natural turn shape is also remarkable.

Length:  I was on 180, which was OK for me, but I did wish for a longer ski a few times. As the day went on, I was wishing for it less, as the Bonafide is not a soft ski and I was getting tired.  Given the rocker shape and quickness of the ski I still think that the penalty of going longer is minimal, so I will be looking at the 187.

Closing words:  What a fun ride!  I really feel that Blizzard has achieved something remarkable here, the Bonafide is the first rockered ski that I feel I can ski in any conditions without compromising the performance in any way.  It is potentially a game changer in the daily driver segment for advanced skiers in the West.  If things go my way, the 187 Bonafide will anchor my quiver next year (and more or less as soon as I can get my hands on them).

 

 

Tester Info:

Age: 40

Height/Weight: 6ft/190lb

Average days on snow: 0-10, 11-25, 30+  (pick one)

Years Skiing: 0-5, 6-15, 15+  (pick one)

 

Aggressiveness: Conservative / Moderate / Aggressive / Competitor (pick one)

 

Front of the ski:

Front.jpg

Tip profile:

Tip.jpg

Tail profile:

Tail.jpg

Test in progress (Headwall chair, Squaw) 

Headwall1.tiff

 

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From my earlier first impressions post:

This is a phenomenal ski, nothing less.  It is quick edge to edge, yet manages to lock on edge and hold that edge very securely.  Damp ride at speed, yet it has very good snow feel.  It is also the most natural turn engagement feeling that I remember in a long time.  It does great in bumps, and with a slightly rockered tail, it is also much quicker than the stiffness and sidecut would suggest.  As you drive it more, the ski seems to feel longer.  Tight chutes, bumps, wide open bowls, piste...this ski does it.  It is also stiff without feeling stiff and planky.  There is tip flap , but is entirely inconsequential ( you don't feel it, and if you are looking at your ski tips when you are skiing, that's not good anyway. I have been on a few rockered all mountain skis, and they all felt lacking, this time Blizzard got everything right, the flex, the stiffness, the amount of rocker and the shape of it.  This ski is possibly a game-changer for the expert all-mountain ski segment.  More to come...


Edited by alexzn - 3/8/11 at 9:30pm

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Alex skied the Bones again on Sunday and in the afternoon when he came back in, I know he didn't want to give them back. This is more or less the reaction of literally everyone that has been on them including me.(But of course......I don't hafta give 'em back to anyone......biggrin.gif) I know that Alex will have more comments to come but I can say that this past weekend was a very typical Tahoe period......some wind, some snow, and very variable conditions.

 

The Starthaus crew and our extended test team are in follow up test mode now and will be for several weeks. Orders are being written and comparisons are being made and the more we ski on these skis and compare them to others, the more we all are starting to appreciate exactly how well Blizzard has hit the mark.

 

In ski design, the magic (if there is any) is almost never in one thing. Rather, it is the marriage of a bunch of factors. These days, there are more factors than ever before to consider and it is MHO that Blizzard has blended construction, sidecut, rocker, camber, and most of all the flex in a near perfect recipe. I think the reason that the Bone and the other Freemountain models are getting the reviews they are is that there is no one dominant characteristic. You don't feel that "wow...the tails of these are really stiff" or "gee......I can really feel the rocker tips" or "man.....these are a little rattley on that hard snow". You just don't get those singular characteristics that stand out. You do get a seamless blend of positives that sort of make it difficult to figure out exactly what the ski does. I think that's because the Bonafide is doing everything so well that nothing really stands out because everything does.

 

SJ

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Ok...

This might be a stupid question...

How would these new Blizzard skis work in the lighter snow of Colorado...?

Does the type of snow change the selection process...?

Looking for that other ski in the quiver, got the ski for when it has not snowed for several days, need one for new snow, will rent when it dumps.

Sounds like Blizzard really has put together a bunch of gems.

 

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Ok...

This might be a stupid question...

How would these new Blizzard skis work in the lighter snow of Colorado...?

Does the type of snow change the selection process...?

Looking for that other ski in the quiver, got the ski for when it has not snowed for several days, need one for new snow, will rent when it dumps.

Sounds like Blizzard really has put together a bunch of gems.

 

I have tested numerous 98 waisted skis for next season. I would say w/o reservation, the Bonafide is at the top of the class and it will perform fantastic in every aspect you mentioned above. 
 

 

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I have tested numerous 88 waisted skis for next season. I would say w/o reservation, the Bonafide is at the top of the class and it will perform fantastic in every aspect you mentioned above. 
 

 

Wait, the Bonafide is a 98 waisted correct? yet you refer to 88mm waisted and put the Bone at the top of the class? So I think you are saying the Bone at 98mm is better than any 88 (does that include MX88?) and skis similarly?
 

 

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Does anybody know what the street price will be...?

Flat or bindings included...?

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Kinda in the same boat, have the eastern ski and will rent powder skis when (or if) the big dump arrives.  So for a 6', 175 lb agressive skier who spends 10+ days skiing in Colorado and whose passion is carving turns but wants the versatility to handle crud, bowls and smaller dumps of soft stuff, what are benefits of the Bushwacker versus the Bonafide (more specifically, how much quickness edge to edge and playfulness does the Bone give up)?  And do I need to go longer than 180? 

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Does anybody know what the street price will be...?

Flat or bindings included...?


IIRC, $699.00

 

Flat, Binding suggestions...TBA. 

 

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Wait, the Bonafide is a 98 waisted correct? yet you refer to 88mm waisted and put the Bone at the top of the class? So I think you are saying the Bone at 98mm is better than any 88 (does that include MX88?) and skis similarly?
 

 


Phil misstyped.....

Here are all the specs for the new Freemountain line

Black Pearl
-128-88-110
-158,166,173
-light wood core with one small sheet of metal under foot for mounting
-early rise tip and tail, slight camber under foot

Bushwacker
- 125-88-110
- 159,166,173,180
- $599 MAP
- light wood core, small sheet of metal under foot for binding mounting
- early rise tip and tail with slight camber under foot

Bonafide
-135-98-118
-166,173,180,187
-$699 MAP
-light wood core, two sheets of metal
-early rise tip and tail with slight camber under foot

Cochise
-135-108-123
-177,185,193
-$749 MAP
-light wood core, two sheets of metal
-early rise tip and tail, flat under foot

Bodacious
-142-118-132
-186,196
-$799 MAP
-light wood core, two sheets of metal
-early rise tip and tail, flat under foot

The Black Pearl, Bushwacker, & Bonafide basically all share the same rocker profile and the Cochise/Bodacious share the same basic rocker profile as well.

I hope this helps
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Wait, the Bonafide is a 98 waisted correct? yet you refer to 88mm waisted and put the Bone at the top of the class? So I think you are saying the Bone at 98mm is better than any 88 (does that include MX88?) and skis similarly?
 

 




Phil misstyped.....

Here are all the specs for the new Freemountain line

Black Pearl
-128-88-110
-158,166,173
-light wood core with one small sheet of metal under foot for mounting
-early rise tip and tail, slight camber under foot

Bushwacker
- 125-88-110
- 159,166,173,180
- $599 MAP
- light wood core, small sheet of metal under foot for binding mounting
- early rise tip and tail with slight camber under foot

Bonafide
-135-98-118
-166,173,180,187
-$699 MAP
-light wood core, two sheets of metal
-early rise tip and tail withnslight camber under foot

Cochise
-135-108-123
-177,185,193
-$749 MAP
-light wood core, two sheets of metal
-early rise tip and tail, flat under foot

Bodacious
-142-118-132
-186,196
-light wood core, two sheets of metal
-early rise tip and tail, flat under foot

The Black Pearl, Bushwacker, & Bonafide basically all share the same rocker profile and the Cochise/Bodacious share the same basic rocker profile as well.


Okay I think I understand that Phil mistyped the Bonafide's 98 waist, but the key for me is did he mean to say the Bonafide, with a 98 waist, is better than any other 88 ski out there? Phil - will you answer this and expand upon it? Thx

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I am on my third season with 177 Volkl AC50s and they are getting tired. For the deep, I have Shamans but my Volkl replacement will spend most of its time at Killington with a yearly western trip. This year at Jackson Hole the Volkls were great in everything up to knee deep. At 6', 230 lbs, I am usually on a stiffer ski. I will demo when I get the chance but would appreciate some comparisons of the Bushwacker, Bonafide and Cochise to the AC50s. Based on the Epic Bonafide/Cochise posts I believe I should start with the Bushwacker and Bonafide.

 

Comments - Suggestions ?

 

Falcon_O aka Charlie

 

PS - I will be in Utah next week staying at the Canyons and will try to demo in hopefully EXCELLENT Utah snow.

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Can you compare the Bonifide to my Blizzard The One ski? Just bought it and I love this ski.

 

Question, I'm also looking for fatty deep pow ski with rocker that will I can use my IQ max binder plate with. Is Blizzard going to unleash anything like that? Or is the IQ a one and done deal? I hope they keep it in play so a guy can use bindings for more than one ski with only a quick break change out. Not to mention traveling with multi skis and only one binding/plate would be great...

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Just picked up a pair of The One Blizzards on a closeout and love them. They seem like a great pair of all around skis, anyway, just curious of the difference? Sorry if this has been asked already and don't bother with the question if it is silly. Kind of new to the board.

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I just spent three days at Squaw convincing myself that my Dynastar Legend 8000 skis are getting too narrow.  Is the Blizzard Bonafide the new ski for me or too much ski for me?  I'm 5' 9" and a tad under 150 lbs.  Level 7 skier.  Like bumps, powder, trees, steeps.

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Okay I think I understand that Phil mistyped the Bonafide's 98 waist, but the key for me is did he mean to say the Bonafide, with a 98 waist, is better than any other 88 ski out there? Phil - will you answer this and expand upon it? Thx
 

 

I'm not going to speak to what Phil meant, but I'll go ahead and concur with that idea.  If I had the Bonafide in my quiver there would be no point to owning an 88 underfoot ski.  The Bushwacker is a great ski, but I much preferred the Bonafide (skied them in the same lengths) on the hard pack, bumps, and some tight trees.  I think that Alex's review is spot on BTW.

 

It's rare that so many of us seem to be in total agreement on a particular ski.  When I chatted with Philpug and SJ at the demos we all had already reached our own conclusions independently on these skis.  I'm not a Blizzard fan boy - I don't own a single one yet, but it's just plain undeniable that they have something special going on in the Flipcore series.

 

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Can you compare the Bonifide to my Blizzard The One ski? Just bought it and I love this ski.


 

I second this question.  I'm considering either the 2011 One on end-of-season sale this year versus 2012 Bonafide at full price early next season.  Anyone wish to weigh in on this choice?

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Yes, I am sorry, the Bonafide IS 98 underfoot and one of THE BEST 98's that will be available. 

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Updated the original post with a full review.  Hopefully will get to post a couple of pictures of the skis this evening.  (DONE). 

 

Xela- as former owner of the 8000, there is no comparison, the Bonafides are a much better ski.  BTW, they will feel just as quick, despite being almost 20 mm wider.  P.S. If you get a pair, you will have to move the stickers over....


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Can you compare the Bonifide to my Blizzard The One ski? Just bought it and I love this ski.

 

Question, I'm also looking for fatty deep pow ski with rocker that will I can use my IQ max binder plate with. Is Blizzard going to unleash anything like that? Or is the IQ a one and done deal? I hope they keep it in play so a guy can use bindings for more than one ski with only a quick break change out. Not to mention traveling with multi skis and only one binding/plate would be great...


I'll do my best two give you my opinion but others that have skied both might want to chime in....

When I first saw and flexed The One I thought "this thing is going to be a piece of shit". I thought it was so unbelievably soft that there was no way anyone was going to like it. Then I made 5 turns on pretty hard snow (for UT standards) and was totally blown away. The guys I was skiing with didn't believe that it was 98 under foot. We actually had to go in an measure it against an S3 before those guys believed that it was truly 98. Needless to say everyone that got on it last spring absolutely loved it. It's amazing how quick the ski is and how good the edge hold is especially for such a soft ski! Personally I find that The One has a bit of a speed limit. Because it's so soft and has no metal I can over bend the ski and it starts to chatter. It also doesn't quite bust through crud that well for me. I'm a bigger guy (6'2" 210) and grew up racing so I also like the feel of metal and like a little bit stiffer ski. That's why I personally like the Bonafide. It's a bit stiffer (not that much though it's softer than people would think when you flex it) but the metal adds a lot of dampness and stability at speed. I think they're both just as easy to skid, throw sideways, smear, but the Bonafide holds an edge better on hard snow and busts through crud easier. The Bonafide does have a little more tip rocker than the One.

If you like light, soft, pllayful skis than The One is a great choice. If you want a little more edge grip on hard snow and like a bit more stability than The Bonafide would be a better choice. Again they're both easy to ski but the Bonafide doesn't really have a speed limit. At least I couldn't find one.
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Since you are here answering questions, I haven't been able to find the answer to this one: what is the difference between the One and the Crush, besides top sheet?
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Since you are here answering questions, I haven't been able to find the answer to this one: what is the difference between the One and the Crush, besides top sheet?


Nothing. 

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Can you compare the Bonifide to my Blizzard The One ski? Just bought it and I love this ski.

 

Question, I'm also looking for fatty deep pow ski with rocker that will I can use my IQ max binder plate with. Is Blizzard going to unleash anything like that? Or is the IQ a one and done deal? I hope they keep it in play so a guy can use bindings for more than one ski with only a quick break change out. Not to mention traveling with multi skis and only one binding/plate would be great...


The Bonafide is not an IQ ski. This series has done away with the IQ in favor of a simple flat layup. The Answer/One are currently available and will be next year as well. The Answer is the widest ski available with IQ system. AFAIK....there are no plans for a wider IQ ski than the Answer.

 

SJ

 


Edited by SierraJim - 3/9/11 at 7:12am

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I am on my third season with 177 Volkl AC50s and they are getting tired. For the deep, I have Shamans but my Volkl replacement will spend most of its time at Killington with a yearly western trip. This year at Jackson Hole the Volkls were great in everything up to knee deep. At 6', 230 lbs, I am usually on a stiffer ski. I will demo when I get the chance but would appreciate some comparisons of the Bushwacker, Bonafide and Cochise to the AC50s. Based on the Epic Bonafide/Cochise posts I believe I should start with the Bushwacker and Bonafide.

 

Comments - Suggestions ?

 

Falcon_O aka Charlie

 

PS - I will be in Utah next week staying at the Canyons and will try to demo in hopefully EXCELLENT Utah snow.


The AC50 is best described as a giant carver while the Bush and the Bone are definitely all mountain skis. As such, the Volkls with their conventional camber will feel grippier on hard snow and have more pull from the tip when the skis are laid over on edge. By way of contrast, the Blizzis will offer very good grip underfoot but will take more edge angle for the tip to engage. The AC50 is far from my favorite ski but would serve you well for your firm snow days @ K-Mart(especially at your weight). For bumps, trees, edges of the runs and the occasional deepish day, the Blizzis are both better choices. The Cochise would shine on your western trip but is probably not the right choice the rest of the time.

 

If you wanted a wider ski than what you have as your daily driver for the East, the Bonafide would be the best call given your weight. If something similar to your Volkls but more versatile sounds better, then Blizzard certainly has that as well. Either the current Magnum 8.7 or M-Power, or the 2012 Mag 8.7 with tip rise added are all hard snow oriented skis like the AC-50 but they have a rounder flex and thus are more versatile in mixed up snow.

 

SJ

 

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Nothing. 


Ok, thanks ... Most things I read indicated that, but a couple of descriptions said (sort of unconvincingly) that the Crush was lighter or softer.
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Nothing. 




Ok, thanks ... Most things I read indicated that, but a couple of descriptions said (sort of unconvincingly) that the Crush was lighter or softer.


Well, other than the Black Pearl, there is not a woman's ski in this collection that will rival the Crush. IMHO, there WILL be a one next year. I am not sure if the Crush is actually lighter, I would have to put one a scale then flex the two to see how the do flex, my guess is the Crush IS softer. 

 

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Well, other than the Black Pearl, there is not a woman's ski in this collection that will rival the Crush. IMHO, there WILL be a one next year. I am not sure if the Crush is actually lighter, I would have to put one a scale then flex the two to see how the do flex, my guess is the Crush IS softer. 

 


Ok, that would be a difference, then, no? That was my question.

I would be very happy to see one of these bigger blizzards in a women's version, too. Any company that will make a women's ski longer than 170 has my business, for sure.
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Well, other than the Black Pearl, there is not a woman's ski in this collection that will rival the Crush. IMHO, there WILL be a one next year. I am not sure if the Crush is actually lighter, I would have to put one a scale then flex the two to see how the do flex, my guess is the Crush IS softer. 

 




Ok, that would be a difference, then, no? That was my question.

I would be very happy to see one of these bigger blizzards in a women's version, too. Any company that will make a women's ski longer than 170 has my business, for sure.


A woman's ski larger than a 170 is out of the "bell curve" that I doubt we will see too many choices and for a woman of that size (and strength) chances are they will want to be on a uni-sex ski any so even right there, the miniscule market for that size woman's ski is cut in half. Will we see a woman's Bonafide, I would guess yes. Will there be a 180 cm version, the size break of the Bonafide that you would ski, I would say 30/70..no. 

 

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SJ,

 

Thanks for the feedback and recommendations. I should be able to demo the Mag's at Ktown and with the help of Wasatchback hope to demo the
Bonafides when I come to the Canyons next week. I'll have my AC50s and Shamans with me so should get a good taste of the differences.

 

Now all I will need is a DUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

As always Epic rocks for allowing more informed choices.

 

Falcon_O aka Charlie

 

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The AC50 is best described as a giant carver while the Bush and the Bone are definitely all mountain skis. As such, the Volkls with their conventional camber will feel grippier on hard snow and have more pull from the tip when the skis are laid over on edge. By way of contrast, the Blizzis will offer very good grip underfoot but will take more edge angle for the tip to engage. The AC50 is far from my favorite ski but would serve you well for your firm snow days @ K-Mart(especially at your weight). For bumps, trees, edges of the runs and the occasional deepish day, the Blizzis are both better choices. The Cochise would shine on your western trip but is probably not the right choice the rest of the time.

 

If you wanted a wider ski than what you have as your daily driver for the East, the Bonafide would be the best call given your weight. If something similar to your Volkls but more versatile sounds better, then Blizzard certainly has that as well. Either the current Magnum 8.7 or M-Power, or the 2012 Mag 8.7 with tip rise added are all hard snow oriented skis like the AC-50 but they have a rounder flex and thus are more versatile in mixed up snow.

 

SJ

 



 

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A woman's ski larger than a 170 is out of the "bell curve" that I doubt we will see too many choices and for a woman of that size (and strength) chances are they will want to be on a uni-sex ski any so even right there, the miniscule market for that size woman's ski is cut in half. Will we see a woman's Bonafide, I would guess yes. Will there be a 180 cm version, the size break of the Bonafide that you would ski, I would say 30/70..no. 

 


So I gather. :-) I've been very happy with both my 177 Aura and 177 Crush, probably happier than any other skis I have been on, and it's one reason I am curious if the Crush is softer than the One. I will just have to try the unisex versions of the new stuff, though. I don't expect ski manufacturers to make stuff that's way outsidethe bell curve; just saying I'll buy it if they do.
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Bonafide vs. One....................th_dunno-1[1].gif

 

OK..................here's my take.

 

Last year when I wrote the ~~ 100mm daily driver thread, I pointed out that I was surprised by the three 98mm double rise skis. I really expected that I wouldn't like the S3, Slicer, and One.......yet I did like 'em. Did I like any of them well enough to buy one as the "car" ski?........no, but I certainly appreciated all three. The S3 and the One were vaguely similar in that they both were light, easy and nimble. The Slicer was a bit different in that it was more damp, less jibby, and in general a little more serious ski. Realistically, the Slicer was probably the best choice of the three as a Tahoe daily driver but it never really caught on. Of the other two, the S3 caught the interest of the public probably b/c of the spinoff from the S7 while the One sold well for us b/c we all believed in it and thought that it outperformed the S3 at most things. Realistically, the One and S3 had some weaknesses for sure but served most everyone pretty well.

 

One year later..............the Bonafide pops up.

 

Phil and I have both commented that the 98mm skis have become so prevalent that they almost seem like a category unto themselves. For sure, I spent a day at the first SIA demo at Winter Park doing 98mm skis and didn't even get through them all. Later at Mammoth, I took some of the class leaders back out again for a re-test in some truly horrible conditions. After these two tests and further exploration the Bonafide has risen from the crowd as the class leader in broad spectrum capabilities. You can find a 98mm ski that's better at something than the Bonafide but you won't find one that's better at everything. Of course the reality is that there are a couple of 94mm skis that fit in here very well and they are also great choices. I think that the new crop of 94-98's is so good that they have mostly surpassed the S3 and One in overall capabilities and the Bonafide is the leader of the pack.

 

SJ

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