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Well, I just got back from my trip, and wanted to give a quick report of my experiences.

 

Loveland: So they got some fresh snow the weekend before I showed up, and there was still plenty of fun to be had a day or two later. Snowed again (4-6"?) Thursday night, so we skied it again on Friday, and had an amazing day lapping the bowls and short tree runs. I just love how absolutely wide open the terrain is there. Although it doesn't boast the acreage that some of the other local resorts offer, there is still more than enough to keep skiers of any skill level busy for days. From the beginners of the group to my girlfriend and I, we all had a fantastic time here. Oh yeah, and no lift lines.

 

A-Basin: After a great snow Monday night, we hit up A-Basin on a wonderful bluebird Tuesday. Hooooooly moly. We had SO much fun there! Montezuma Bowl was great, and although we didn't make it in time for first tracks, we were only like 6th tracks. Haha. With a short hike around the rim of the bowl (and a little pole whacking of the cornice), there was some amazing skiing to be had. Although a trivial issue to some, one of my favorite things about LL and A-Basin is their parking situation. At A-Basin, I was in the second row, and at the end of the day, just skied up to the row my car was in, and was done. I also absolutely loved the vibe at this place! With the exception of a line only a few people deep at the base, no lift lines here, either.

 

As Mr. Barnes put it, "Both are legends, where the raw, unadulterated spirit of skiing remains alive and well." So true.

 

Copper Mountain: We spent Wednesday at Copper, and sadly, it mostly mirrored my previous experiences there. Even getting there early, the parking situation was not fun. We were meeting up with some friends, so decided to use the free parking lot. The shuttle dropped us off at a convenient spot, but apparently doesn't pick up at the same spot (thankfully they sent a shuttle to us since there were so many mistakenly waiting there), so at the end of the day, we waited almost half an hour for the shuttle, which then had to make a ton of stops before finally dropping us off. Not the most fun experience after a day of hard skiing from open to close.

 

Many of the lift lines were insane. Especially the American Flyer, American Eagle, and Timberline lifts. Once we got away from those lifts, things were much better. I did, however, appreciate the excellent lift management and the lifties' service. They were all really cool, even with putting up with insane crowds all days, so kudos to them. All of the frontside runs I found were super icey, hard-packed, and generally the worst conditions I encountered all week. It would appear that Copper is a bit over-zealous with their grooming, and likes to shave off all the powder they can find on the front side. Maybe I'm wrong in my assumption, but it just appeared that way after seeing how little A-Basin & LL groomed, and how much great snow those places still had. Thankfully, I finally went to the back bowls, and THAT'S where the good skiing is at Copper. Stunning views, and with a very long hike toward Copper Peak, found plenty of untracked snow. So lesson learned, if you go to Copper, get away from the groomers as fast as you can, and get to the backside stat. No lift lines, no crowds, and great skiing. Glad I made it back there to change my opinion about the place (just a bit). It's still way down on my hierarchy, though. I still have the same complaints, but at least I found some things I love about the place.

 

Sadly, we didn't make it to Keystone or Breck, but that's because we had SO much fun at Loveland and A-Basin, that we just had to go back for more. With our Colorado Gems Cards, we got 2 for 1 passes to Loveland, and $10 off at A-Basin. Very nice.

 

One of the things I noticed, was how utterly friendly all the locals and workers were. The lifties at all mountains were wonderful. The customer service at every place we went to was stellar, and we even made a few new friends while we were there. What an amazing week, and as always, it was so sad to leave, and get back to 90+ degree heat. Thanks Colorado!

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Copper Mountain: We spent Wednesday at Copper, and sadly, it mostly mirrored my previous experiences there. Even getting there early, the parking situation was not fun. We were meeting up with some friends, so decided to use the free parking lot. The shuttle dropped us off at a convenient spot, but apparently doesn't pick up at the same spot (thankfully they sent a shuttle to us since there were so many mistakenly waiting there), so at the end of the day, we waited almost half an hour for the shuttle, which then had to make a ton of stops before finally dropping us off. Not the most fun experience after a day of hard skiing from open to close.


You must be doing something wrong with that kind of parking experience.  I hit Copper at least every other week and park in the free lot.  You get on the shuttle, it drives you right to a drop off point a short walk from the lift.  Coming back you get on right where it drops you off and I never have to wait more than 5 or 10 min for a shuttle.  And not sure why your shuttle is making 'tons of stops'...the one I'm familiar with drives you straight back to the lot where there are only two stops, one at each end of the lot.

 

That said, I'd rate the resorts as follows:

 

1. Vail - far so I forget how awesome until I'm there and then i can't smile wide enough for those bowls

2. Jane - best group of gnarly trails off of a single lift that is right next to a free parking lot

3. Copper - love those alpine lift bump runs and the bowls.  even the long groomers are a hoot.

4. A-Basin - love that pali and the close parking .

5. Keystone - the bumps off north peak and outback are sweet, rated last due to crappy parking

 

Breck - don't go, unrated.

post #33 of 37

First off don't get copper and Cooper mixed up.   Copper is nice, but COOPER SUCKS!!!!   I got a free ticket to cooper and it wasn't worth the gas to get there, ..    Anyways,  Any of the resorts will be great, I will however warn you that Loveland does get the wind and shade.   So it does get cold there, but I like it, I like them all.    And don't forget Winterpark/Maryjane side.  great family resort with the best bumps in possibly the entire state (seriously). And they do get the best/most snow out off all the summit county resorts.   When copper gets 3 inches, winterpark gets 8 etc....    It is just on the other side of the divide so the storms come down the divide and stall over the resort.   if you want a variety and a resort that's pretty big winterpark is worth the trip.     Keystone, Brek, are all good too, but take my advice and hit winterpark for a day.   

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Copper Mountain: We spent Wednesday at Copper, and sadly, it mostly mirrored my previous experiences there. Even getting there early, the parking situation was not fun. We were meeting up with some friends, so decided to use the free parking lot. The shuttle dropped us off at a convenient spot, but apparently doesn't pick up at the same spot (thankfully they sent a shuttle to us since there were so many mistakenly waiting there), so at the end of the day, we waited almost half an hour for the shuttle, which then had to make a ton of stops before finally dropping us off. Not the most fun experience after a day of hard skiing from open to close.

 


In 5 years of coaching at Copper I have never had to go to a different spot to catch the afternoon bus.  Hard to say what happened here but this is not the norm. 

 

Glad you had a good time overall.  Personally I have come to avoid the front side at most resorts (LL and A Basin not being resorts) when not coaching so I don't think Copper is any different there.  You'd find the same conditions at Keystone, Breck and Vail to my knowledge. 
 

 

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Glad you had a good time overall.  Personally I have come to avoid the front side at most resorts (LL and A Basin not being resorts) when not coaching so I don't think Copper is any different there.  You'd find the same conditions at Keystone, Breck and Vail to my knowledge. 

 

 

Yeah, I bet you're right. I think my problem is that I've been so spoiled by less crowded places, that I just get annoyed a bit when places are crowded to capacity. At Copper, while on the frontside trying to link up with some of my friends, I seriously spent more time in lift lines than skiing. Also, the green groomers were far more terrifying than anything the backside had to offer, because skiing crowded icy slopes with hundreds of thousands of people who don't know what they're doing or skiing/snowboarders out of their ability can be quite challenging! Hehe. But as you said, I'm sure I would have encountered this at any of the big name resorts at that time.

 

As far as the shuttle goes, I don't think I did anything wrong, because there were about 30 other people wondering what the heck was going on. We were all at the very same spot we were dropped off at. I think it was just so crowded that day, that operations just got overwhelmed a bit, and the coordination suffered because of it. That's what I get for being there the same time as many people's Spring break. I go on these trips purely to ski, so I don't care very much about the "village," the shopping, or any of the luxury-focused amenities that so many tourists love. I'm guessing Copper would have been much much better if there weren't so many people, and if the snow wasn't like skiing on the icy slopes of New England. But it's all good, since I spent most of my time at the smaller places anyway.

 

Don't get me wrong, though. I still had a lot of fun at Copper. Any day on the snow (er...ice) is still a great day no matter what. I had a blast.

 

post #36 of 37
As I understand it, you skied Copper on a Wednesday, right? It is extremely odd that there were any lines at all. Copper has been deserted on weekdays. You must've caught an odd time.
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As far as the shuttle goes, I don't think I did anything wrong, because there were about 30 other people wondering what the heck was going on.

 



Uh, I didn't say you did anything wrong.  I said it was hard to say what happened here.  Without knowing where you were dropped off and waited I can't say if it was a normal drop off point or not.

 

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