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Just because you are no longer carving making tight turns on a steep slope doesn't mean the skiing doesn't deserve an A+. 

 

If you are making perfect bicycle turns down a steep chute with a mandatory sharp turn at the bottom of it, whether or not you are carving has nothing to do with how well you are making those turns.

 

It is just a description of what you are doing, not how well you are skiing.  If your intent is to carve and you are not carving, then you get a low grade for not meeting your intention, but perhaps your intention should not be carving where carving is not desired.  If your intention is to control your speed and you are going too fast, then you get a low grade too.  If you want to carve very fast turns on steep terrain, you can do that; if you want to descend at a slower pace using turns that better control your speed, you can do that too.  Neither is "better" than the other; they are just different types of turns, both of which can be done well and both of which can be done poorly.

 


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Great post Ghost!  smile.gif icon14.gif
Reinforces your previous point of what vs how.

Kinda puts a different view of intent as well.

Thanks!

 



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Well done, Ghost.  icon14.gif

post #62 of 70
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GMTA.  Maybe I should run out and trademark that quickdevil.gif

 

Naw, you can have it if you like itsmile.gif



biggrin.gif  Sorry, crgildart,,,  a patent pending icon14.gif to you too!  


Edited by Rick - 3/10/11 at 1:12pm
post #63 of 70
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biggrin.gif  Sorry, crgildart,,,  a patent pending icon14.gif to you too!  


Awesome!  It will mos def be better than anything I could put together.redface.gif   You da man when it comes to analysis of ski technique.   I spend 3 years volleying drawings back and forth with Sydney Buffaloe at the US Patent Office for something else I conjured up.  I'm not up for another ordeal like that anytime soon.  Have at it!biggrin.gif

 

post #64 of 70

i understand the importance of effective communication whether it pertains to skiing or other aspects of life and work.  Nonetheless, the definition of a "carved turn" in my alpine manual is turn in which the tail of the ski follows the exact same arc as the tip.  I likewise understand the importance of being able to make a variety of turns and shapes and do skid turns or parts of turns when necessary.  However, that aint a carved turn no matter how much some may wish it to be.  Point well taken though when trying to communicate with skiiers i am coaching.

post #65 of 70
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Music to my ears, mcdave69

post #66 of 70

Seriously meant suggestion; how about "rotation kills carving"?

I'm thinking about how it's usually needed to persuade a skier not to turn their skis in order to get them carving. And how it's even more difficult to have them not rotating their feet when getting inside a course.

post #67 of 70
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Carl, I like it.  I can anticipate debates on what rotation is, though.  Passive and active,,, and all that.

 

How about supplement it with a take off of Chubby Checker:

 

Come on Baby, don't do the twist!

 

 

post #68 of 70
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Rest of the lyrics:

 

 

 

Come on Baby,,, don't do the Twist,,,

 

Come on Baaabyyy, don't do the Twist,,,

 

Oh, you caaarve like this,,,

 

There ain't no twist....

 

 

 

Put that in your Ipod to ski to, folks.  

post #69 of 70
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Rest of the lyrics:

 

 

 

Come on Baby,,, don't do the Twist,,,

 

Come on Baaabyyy, don't do the Twist,,,

 

Oh, you caaarve like this,,,

 

There ain't no twist....

 

 

 

Put that in your Ipod to ski to, folks.  


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Coming to the next mogul thread near youROTF.gif

 

post #70 of 70

Rick I am with you on your campaign.
(No surprise to anyone who read this a few months ago:
http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/97021/carving-101#post_1260631 )
"Carving" has always been a term which describes merely how the ski edges interact with the snow.
As for what is going on "above the bindings": intent, how dynamic our movements are, etc; there are other, perfectly good words that can be used to quantify those concepts.

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