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Liftline Assault

post #1 of 13
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post #2 of 13

What is truly difficult to believe is that no one in the entire liftline stopped this guy. I don't know if anyone tried, the report is a little vague, but its like a story I read about an 8 year old boy falling off a chair. There were two mid-forties riders on the chair as well, and the kid slipped. He managed to grab the lip of the seat and hung on for 30s screaming for them to help. They didn't, he fell, and they continued up the chair, disembarked, and enjoyed the rest of their day.

 

Its disheartening when seemingly normal people become totally amoral in an effort to keep themselves from becoming involved.

post #3 of 13
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Yeah, for all we know, they were the only ones in the line, but you'd think at least the lifties would have jumped in. The kid has been down for six weeks now, that's bordering on attempted murder to smash him up that badly.

post #4 of 13

with poles in your hands, you could certainly use them to slow the guy down. without details, it's hard to assess, but at least you'd want to stop the whole thing from continuing. terrible.

 

we had a fist fight exiting the Funate on the first crowded day of the release of the new inexpensive season pass. someone just romping through everyone else, someone said, hey, chill, and he went ballistic.

 

post #5 of 13

I will never understand people displaying anger or violence of any kind at a ski resort. If you're not just purely enjoying a day at the mountain, then something is seriously wrong with you, and you should seek counseling/medical help.

 

Whenever I'm in the mountains, nothing gets me down. I can be surly all week, but the moment I get back in the hills, all is right in the world. This pretty much sums it up...

 

I think most normal people at resorts are super cool, and probably feel like I do. Anyone who starts a fight on the slopes has got be suffering from a serious case of Assholitus.

post #6 of 13

It's sickening that people stood by and let this happen. I have zero tolerance for this kind of shit. Those people should be ashamed of themselves.

post #7 of 13

There has to be more to this story than is being reported.  First off, the incident took place 6 weeks ago.  Why is this the first anyone is hearing about it?  And yes, it seems strange that no one would've reacted at all to stop the beating.  Unless the kid wrapped a ski around the kid's head & then quickly ran off before anyone could react to stop him, I can't see a situation where anyone would just sit back & watch someone take a serious beating.

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Originally Posted by farlep99 View Post

There has to be more to this story than is being reported.  First off, the incident took place 6 weeks ago.  Why is this the first anyone is hearing about it?  And yes, it seems strange that no one would've reacted at all to stop the beating.  Unless the kid wrapped a ski around the kid's head & then quickly ran off before anyone could react to stop him, I can't see a situation where anyone would just sit back & watch someone take a serious beating.



It wouldn't surprise me if people just did sit back and watch. Most people are timid little sheep.

post #9 of 13

It really depends on the rest of the context that the article doesn't mention.  Maybe the kid cut line, mouthed off, got his ass kicked a bit, and no one felt too bad for him as they didn't realize he was particularly hurt.  If I saw two teenagers get into a fight (rather than having one be attacked), I probably wouldn't throw myself into the fray or charge off to stop the assailant.  How hard the scenario is to believe really depends on what "punched repeatedly" means.  If the victim was jumped, it is hard to believe that no one would stop the attacker.  If a fight kind of just broke out and he got punched a few times (possibly suffering a concussion that no one realized) I can much more easily imagine the rest of the line just allowing the assailant to ski off.

post #10 of 13

From the article...

 

"The boy faces 'significant rehabilitation in hopes of regaining as near to 100 percent of his motor and cognitive' functions as possible, Graham said."

 

This wasn't an ordinary teen fist fight.  There had to be a boot, ski, or some object involved other than fists.  Outside of that than it was an insane beat down that no semi-conscious person could've just sat & watched. 

 

Again this is all speculation at this point.  I think there's way more to this story.

post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by iKabrex View Post

What is truly difficult to believe is that no one in the entire liftline stopped this guy. I don't know if anyone tried, the report is a little vague, but its like a story I read about an 8 year old boy falling off a chair. There were two mid-forties riders on the chair as well, and the kid slipped. He managed to grab the lip of the seat and hung on for 30s screaming for them to help. They didn't, he fell, and they continued up the chair, disembarked, and enjoyed the rest of their day.

 

Its disheartening when seemingly normal people become totally amoral in an effort to keep themselves from becoming involved.


The fact that no one stopped the beating doesn't surprise me at all.  People have a strong sense of self-preservation.

 

I recall (barely) long ago in my second year of college I somehow got into a fight with a guy who was loaded up on demerol at a house party (in the house I was living at).  My adversery was a 6'2" 190 lb "hero" whom we had heard much about (how he was the greatest fighter ever, had beaten these cops up in Alberta, and got arrested in Ottawa for ..etc. etc...) from the wellfare bum who we were stupid enough to let rent one of the rooms to help another student recoup some losses due to him going home half way through term.  At the time I was 5'9" and weighed 130 lbs soaking wet (but I had a yellow belt rolleyes.gif).   I do not recall what started the fight.  As near as I can recall, I was getting very drunk playing caps and the next moment I was being bounced off the fridge putting up ineffective flurries of punches against a series of left hooks looping around my guard.  I tried to reason with the guy, but all I could get out of him was "I'm going to f'n kill you."  Moving to the hall way and using the wall to curtail his hook wasn't much help.  Luckily for me I could see that the left hooks were an attempt to get me move my guard and open a hole for a right hay-maker.   I gave him the opening and folded his arm on him, tripping him as he went by and driving his head into the concrete floor.  After which I continued to try and reason with him with the same result.  Nobody in the house lifted a finger to help me, even though some of the people there were my housemates.  

 

Point is don't count on anyone to intervene; had I not be successful in introducing this guy's head to the floor a couple more times I would be dead. 

post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

The fact that no one stopped the beating doesn't surprise me at all.  People have a strong sense of self-preservation.

 

I recall (barely) long ago in my second year of college I somehow got into a fight with a guy who was loaded up on demerol at a house party (in the house I was living at).  My adversery was a 6'2" 190 lb "hero" whom we had heard much about (how he was the greatest fighter ever, had beaten these cops up in Alberta, and got arrested in Ottawa for ..etc. etc...) from the wellfare bum who we were stupid enough to let rent one of the rooms to help another student recoup some losses due to him going home half way through term.  At the time I was 5'9" and weighed 130 lbs soaking wet (but I had a yellow belt rolleyes.gif).   I do not recall what started the fight.  As near as I can recall, I was getting very drunk playing caps and the next moment I was being bounced off the fridge putting up ineffective flurries of punches against a series of left hooks looping around my guard.  I tried to reason with the guy, but all I could get out of him was "I'm going to f'n kill you."  Moving to the hall way and using the wall to curtail his hook wasn't much help.  Luckily for me I could see that the left hooks were an attempt to get me move my guard and open a hole for a right hay-maker.   I gave him the opening and folded his arm on him, tripping him as he went by and driving his head into the concrete floor.  After which I continued to try and reason with him with the same result.  Nobody in the house lifted a finger to help me, even though some of the people there were my housemates.  

 

Point is don't count on anyone to intervene; had I not be successful in introducing this guy's head to the floor a couple more times I would be dead. 


That's a good point, and the sad fact is that for all a lot of people's talk most of the people in the world are missing a pair between the legs if you catch my drift. People have a way of shielding themselves against involvement; this is subtly observable when people avert their eyes from the homeless, ignore/change channels about starving people, etc, etc. That is why I carefully chose the word disheartening and not surprising, since I too have seen lots of despicable shit.

 

post #13 of 13

I was there that day.  I don't remember anything unusual.  It was not crowded - little/no line all day.


 

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