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Clear lens on a sunny day?

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

I recently purchased a pair of Oakley Crowbar Snow goggles with the persimmon lens. I was told persimmon was a good balance for night and day skiing, but when I skied with them at night, they were too dark for me. With that being said, I do happen to prefer a relatively bright view, so maybe they aren't too dark for other people.


I accidentally cracked the persimmon lens, so figured that was a good reason to go ahead and purchase a clear lens, as I've recently been doing more night skiing than day. I don't want to end up at the slopes and find that I don't have the proper equipment, so should I also purchase another lens for daytime skiing, or is it safe to use this clear lens when the sun is shining bright?


I imagine it isn't safe to use the clear lens on a sunny day, but under the clear lens on Oakley's website, it reads: "HIGH DEFINITION OPTICS® (HDO®) combines patented innovations with pure PLUTONITE® lens material to offer unbeatable clarity, and it maintains 100% UV filtering while providing unsurpassed impact protection."


Has anyone here tried using a clear lens on a sunny day; if so, what were the results?


Any other general feedback on this topic?



post #2 of 12

It's safe, in that the lens does filter out UV.  But it's going to be very difficult to see.  The sun reflecting off snow can be awfully bright.  I have oakley HI yellow lenses, and even those I think are tough to use on a sunny day.  So I do keep 2 pairs (the HI yellow and another lens for sunny days) in my bag.

post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the info!

post #4 of 12

I have the Oakley Crowbar with Hi intensity yellow, Spy with a clear lens and Zeal Linx PPX.


I've used all of them on bright sunny days.  You can use the clear lens but you'll end up squinting and you won't see the features and nuances in the snow as well as you will with the Zeals.  I use the clear ones for night skiing, gave the Hi intensity yellows to my daughter (who is young enough to use them at night with no issues - I'm 51y/o) and use the Zeals the rest of the time. 


I got the Zeals because I was missing things in varied terrain with the hi intensity yellow and clear.  I don't mind catching air here and there but I would like to know it's coming and was surprised too many times. 


I know having a couple pairs of goggles can get pricey and it's another thing to take care of, but changing the lenses constantly is even more tedious to manage and there has to be wear and tear associated with it.  Be patient and watch for a good deal.  I got the Zeals, through promotive by being a supporter here for 50% off.


You'll be happier in the long run.




post #5 of 12

I tried it and it was not pleasant.   After a short while I couldn't differentiate features in the snow.   When I took a break at the lodge I was nearly blind.....couldn't see anything....took a good amount of time for my eyes to adjust....was very unpleasant.

post #6 of 12
My broken record response for people that like a brighter lens that can work on a sunny day but is great when overcast or snowing is the Smith Sensor Mirror lens. I scored a pair on EBay for $65. Much better contrast definition than my Zeal goggles and I prefer them over my Smith Prodigy's with the yellow lens in on storm days or the copper lens in on bright days. I still use the Zeal's on sunny days, but want the Sensor Mirror googles as soon as the sun goes behind the mountain in the afternoon and the shaded areas become more flat light.
post #7 of 12

+1 for the Zeal PPX, I have the SPPX and the photochromic tint change is seamless throughout the day.  Good visibility and contrast in complete shade and great reflection control with the polarized lens in bright conditions.

post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the info!

post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 

UPDATE: I've used my clear lens 3 times now, all within the past month. By chance, the conditions I was in were foggy/nighttime, so very little exposure to sunlight, but the clear lens worked GREAT for those conditions. 

post #10 of 12

Clear will work for those conditions but for bright days you'll need a different lens.  Persimmon is the lightest I would go for daytime conditions, but depends how sensitive your eyes are. Mine are sensitive, I always have 3 lenses (1 in use + 2 others) for varying conditions.

post #11 of 12

I think we may have covered this in some detail among the pages here:




But the short answer is that clear, and tints lighter than about 40% transmission can range from mildly uncomfortable, to flat-out dangerous for numerous reasons.  Leaving all discussion about brand name this or that out of it, tinting can have dramatic effects on your enjoyment of the sport, ability to function comfortably and safely, as well as some rarely thought of potential for long term ocular health issues.  Feel free to PM if you have any specific questions I can assist with.  Happy to help if I'm able.




post #12 of 12
Originally Posted by liv2 ski View Post

My broken record response for people that like a brighter lens that can work on a sunny day but is great when overcast or snowing is the Smith Sensor Mirror lens. ...

The Sensor Mirror (or any of them, comes in a bunch of finishes/colors) is a great all-around lens, but on very bright days at altitude (esp. above tree line where there's more snow around reflecting sunlight) it can still be blinding.  I think it's Smith's highest-transmission lens that isn't clear, at least in the interchangeable lens lineup.

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